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Daily Thread: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest
Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) ^ | Sept. 27, 2003 | staff

Posted on 09/27/2003 4:45:44 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

Title: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest Source: Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)

URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/html/activism.html Published: Sep 25, 2003 Author: staff

Beginning Sept. 28th thru Oct. 4th, many of us will be joining groups from across the country to counter the Illegal Immigrants Freedom Ride to DC. We will be using toll free phone numbers (that we pay for) to blitz the Senate, House and the Whitehouse on behalf of the hardworking citizens of the United States....the taxpayers.

Phone Nos.:

Senate and House: 1-800-648-3516

(When answered, just ask to be connected to a specific Senator or Rep)

Republican Nat'l Committee: 1-202-863-8500 (not toll free)

Whitehouse: 202-456-1414 (voice)

WH fax: 202-456-2461

Comment Line: 202-456-6213

Please join us. NUMBERS MATTER! It's our only hope to keep our politicians in line on this issue. We did it once early in the Bush Administration when he first pushed amnesty for illegals. It was a success! But we need you now to counter the Illegal's demand for "rights."

Please give us some time, if only to call your own Senators and Representatives to protest this invasion. And please consider calling as many of them as you can! In coming days I'll be posting links to the current incumbents, as well as a list of key sponsors of Pro-Illegal bills before the House and Senate.

Click on the above URL for a cram course on the Illegal Invasion.

The following are frequently asked questions to be used as talking points. Please print a copy to use in the event you actually get a "human being" to talk to! :0)

Frequently Asked Questions About Immigration Policy and Its Effects

How many immigrants come to the U.S.?

In 2001, more than one million immigrants were admitted to the United States. Additionally, about 500,000 entered illegally. This is nearly four times as many immigrants as we were receiving only 30 years ago.

Where are immigrants to the U.S. coming from?

About 20 percent come from Mexico. India, China, and the Philippines each send between five to seven percent. The following countries each send between two and three percent of our immigrants: Vietnam, El Salvador, Cuba, Haiti, Bosnia, Canada, the Dominican Republic, Ukraine, Korea, Russia, and Nicaragua. Together, these top 15 sending countries account for about 60 percent of all immigration to the U.S. The remaining 40 percent is composed of very small shares from a large number of other countries.

Who is able to immigrate?

Most immigration (almost two-thirds) is sponsored by family members in this country who most often immigrated themselves and are now legal permanent residents or have become U.S. citizens. Smaller shares of admissions (about one-sixth) go to workers (and their families) whom employers say they need to complement the native workforce, and to refugees and asylees (about one-tenth). In addition, about one out of every 25 admissions visas is given away by lottery.

Who is responsible for U.S. immigration policy?

As a sovereign state, the United States has the right and responsibility to regulate the permanent and temporary admissions of non-citizens. This authority is vested in the Congress, which makes the laws that determine the basis on which visas are authorized (although refugee admissions are proposed annually by the President for concurrance by the Congress). The regulations that promulgate those laws are developed and administered by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) a division of the Department of Justice (DOJ). Within the INS, there are the Border Patrol, which monitors the borders against illegal entry; the INS Inspectors, who monitor people entering the U.S. at ports of entry such as airports; INS Investigators, who track down violators of immigration law; and immigration judges (appointed by the Attorney General), who hear cases on violations of immigration law and regulation. Independent from the INS but still within in the DOJ, there is a Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) administered by the Executive Office for Immigration Review; the BIA hears appeals of decisions by the immigration judges.

Is immigration different now than it used to be?

Immigration is much higher now than it has historically been. Through most of our country's history (more than 180 years), we took in fewer than 500,000 immigrants a year; for more than 135 of those years, it was fewer than 300,000 immigrants. In 2001, our country admitted 1,064,318 legal immigrants, as well as an estimated additional 500,000 illegal immigrants. Only seven years in our entire history have had as many immigrants as we received in 2001.

Why should we reduce immigration?

Because so many of today's immigrants are low-skilled, mass immigration brings competition for entry-level jobs, harming American low-skilled workers. Because most of today's immigrants are poor, they are a drain on our fiscal resources and our economy. Because immigrants are being admitted faster they assimilate, mass immigration is causing social strain and strife among different groups. And because immigration is the source of most population growth in the U.S., it strains the environment and our natural resources.

How many immigrants should we have?

FAIR believes we should strive for a system in which continuing immigration does not add to our population size. That would mean admitting between 200,000 and 300,000 immigrants a year. This would allow us to maximize the positive effects of immigration without overwhelming our environment, schools, social services, and other institutions. It would also contribute to U.S. population stability over the long-term.

Answers to Tough Questions

Arguments you will hear…and the replies to have ready!

“Immigration is a big part of American tradition and national character. We are a nation of immigrants. ”

The fact is, immigration levels today are far higher than traditional levels; in the mid 1950s, our immigration was less than one-third what it is today. Also, the U.S. today is a very different country than in years past. We’re now a fully populated nation of almost 290 million people, not the sparsely settled territory of 150 years ago. Today we’re concerned about limiting sprawl, overcrowding, and environmental stress. Yet, if today’s rate of immigration is continued, it will add nearly 150 million people to our population over the next 80 years. How will that help achieve a single U.S. objective? Will it decrease traffic and other forms of congestion, improve water tables, decrease school overcrowding, cut oil consumption, reduce housing costs? Not one single domestic objective of our nation is being facilitated by today’s mass migration.

“Immigration has been good for us in the past and has made our nation great.”

Immigration in the past did bring benefits--in the past, the U.S. needed large numbers of people to settle the frontiers, cut forests, build railroads, mine gold, and much more. Today’s priorities are preserving our remaining wilderness areas, conserving our natural resources, and ensuring a better quality of life for future generations.

Furthermore, immigration in the past has been quite limited. History shows us that immigration at high levels is not beneficial, which is why the country cut back immigration after the brief Ellis Island period. In the past, we have successfully absorbed and assimilated immigrants because we have periodically halted immigration.

“Throughout our history, people have always attacked immigration and they have always been wrong.”

While people have opposed immigration for a variety of motives over the years, Americans have always had legitimate concerns about immigration and its effects on our population, economy, and society. While we have coped successfully with some of these concerns in the past, that is largely because mass immigration to this country was stopped, not because the concerns were unfounded.

“Immigration is less of a problem today because immigrants comprise a smaller share of our overall population than ever before.”

Quite the opposite is true. When there were fewer people in this country, there was more room and opportunity for immigrants. Now, in a country already stuffed with well over a quarter of a billion people, adding another million through immigration every year is much more of a problem. The more people we have in our country, the fewer immigrants can be added without unwanted consequences.

“Opposition to high immigration is rooted in racism.”

There are always people who support the right idea for the wrong reasons--but that doesn’t make the idea itself wrong. None of this changes the fact that bringing a million additional people from other countries into this one is disruptive to our economy, our society, and our environment. We condemn racism. But we also condemn the use of terms such as “anti-immigrant,” “racist,” or “xenophobe” as they are used to try to stifle open, honest discussion of how our immigration policy is impacting the country.

“Immigrants are a driving force behind our economy, performing jobs that Americans won’t do.”

There are no jobs Americans won’t do, only conditions and wages that are unacceptable. The employers who have become economically dependent on immigrants for cheap labor use this argument to justify virtual indentured servitude and then try to shame Americans into accepting it. Job competition by waves of new immigrants depresses the wages and salaries of American workers and hits hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees.

“Immigrants don’t take jobs from Americans, they create more jobs.”

Actually, both are true. But many of those jobs created are jobs in providing services to immigrants. Other jobs that immigrants create are generally low-skilled and mostly go to other other immigrants anyway. This doesn’t really benefit Americans at all; it simply creates distortions in the economy, generally away from the high-skills, high-education, high-wage economy most Americans support. And it doesn’t in any way address the increased burdens on our schools, environment, social services, and natural resources that bringing in so many additional people causes.

“We live in a global economy and must have foreign workers to compete in the world market.”

Very little immigration is of skilled personnel. Besides, it is precisely because of advances in global communications that we do not have to allow people to move to the U.S. to take advantage of their talents and benefit from their contributions.

“Immigrants are a net benefit, because they pay taxes and contribute more to our society than they cost.”

The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the National Academy of Sciences found that the taxes paid by immigrants do not cover the cost of services received by them. A calculation to the contrary works only if you discount the programs used by the immigrants’ children, refugees and asylees, immigrants who aren’t of working age, illegal immigrants working “off the books,” and immigrants from certain countries.

This argument also ignores the impact of sacrificing farmland and forests to roads and housing developments, increasing congestion to the point that people spend more time in traffic than at home with their families, and raising the burden on our already strained water supply and other natural resources.

“A country as big as America has room for lots more people.”

A country isn’t a big box that you stuff as many people in as possible. It’s a society supported by an environment, and the question isn’t how many people can physically fit in it, but how many people the society wants and the environment can support. Many of the “wide open spaces ” in the U.S. are inhospitable deserts or mountains, or are already used as farmland to raise food to support the population living on the coasts and to export to feed people in other countries.

“Immigrants catch up quickly economically and soon blend into American society.”

There is increasing evidence of groups of immigrants who are trapped in depressed inner cities, and their children similarly find themselves unable to escape poverty. Today more than 21 million people in our country say that they speak English less than very well. Besides, the hub of the problem is not the rate at which immigrants are assimilating, it’s the rate at which we are admitting them. As long as we have mass immigration, the bulk of unassimilated people in our culture will grow, causing social tension and conflict.

“Illegal immigration is the only real problem, not legal immigration.”

The distinction between legal and illegal immigrants is increasingly blurred by programs such as the amnesty in 1986 that gave legal status to nearly three million illegal residents and provisions that allow illegal immigrants to become legal residents if they marry someone legally here, i.e., Section 245(i). There is little difference between the societal effects from illegal immigrants and from those who were amnestied (and the same is true to a large extent for family members sponsored by former illegal aliens).

“We have a humanitarian obligation to take in struggling people from other countries.”

We can’t solve the world’s problems by importing a tiny fraction of the millions who would like to come here. Instead, we should solve problems where people live and help them turn their countries into places that people aren’t driven to leave. But although the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says that foreign aid and assistance is best utilized when the resources are spent on alleviating problems at their source, the U.S. channels a large share of its refugee resources on the transportation, language training, cultural adaptation, and assistance grants to refugees resettled in the United States that could benefit many more refugees if expended on temporary shelter and sustenance at refugee facilities near the refugees’ homeland and in the refugees’ eventual return to their homes.

It should be noted, however, that the United States admits as refugees many persons who are not true refugees under the United Nations’ standard, e.g. people from Cuba who do not qualify for asylum in this country.


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To: gpl4eva
You're putting the cart before the horse. You have us on the path to a population of 1 billion without any guarantee that your magic future technology will ever materialize.

I told you where the numbers I linked you to came from, available arable land, fresh water, mountains, deserts, etc..

Your formula isn't mathematical, it's new age mumbo jumbo.

141 posted on 09/28/2003 8:47:41 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Missouri
We have to somehow take this battle right to the source. The elite politicians.

Couldn't agree more. The old saying that if you want to change things, vote out ALL the Incumbents (in both parties) is never more true than today. The political establishment has become so hidebound and unresponsive to the electorate they have become a power truly unto themselves with accountability to no one. Though there are a few politicians like Tom Tancredo who is rare exception to the idiocy (and greed) of most politicians.

Term limits is something I have always been for. It would go a long way towards solving growing crises that are accumulating in this country. Once the "Career" is taken out of “Politics” the ability of moneyed interests to influence political results is greatly diminished; and getting new representatives in on a regular basis makes for a much more responsive government.

Taking a quote from the great Air Force General, Curtis LeMay, "The hell with swatting flys, go straight to the manure pile". He could have been talking about the politicians of today.

I can't think of a better analogy to describe the quality of elected representatives today...LOL.

142 posted on 09/28/2003 8:50:15 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Missouri
We need every Sam Graves we can get. I look forward to hearing more about him.
143 posted on 09/28/2003 8:51:44 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: WRhine
"He could have been talking about the politicians of today."

That's an insult to manure.

144 posted on 09/28/2003 8:56:53 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
NEW INFO!

(At least I think it's new...to tell the truth I'm too tired to read all the replies! LOL)

I guess most of you have already discovered that some of the numbers aren't working, some work on M-F, 9-5 only.

Here's the update:

Whitehouse Comment line: 202-456-1111

House: 877-762-8762

Senate: 800-648-3516


Here's a list of the Senate List of names:

Akaka, Daniel D-HI

Alexander, Lamar R-Tenn

Allard, Wayne R-Co

Allen, George R-Va

Baucus, Max D-MI

Bayh, Evan D-In

Bennett, Robert R-Ut

Biden, Joseph D-De

Bingaman, Jeff D-NM

Bond, Christopher R-Mo

Boxer, Barbara D-Ca

Breaux, John D-La

Brownback, Sam R-Ks

Bunning, Jim R-Ky

Burns, Conrad R-Mt

Byrd, Robert D-WV

Campbell, Ben R-Co

Cantwell, Maria D-Wa

Carper, Thomas D-De

Chafee, Lincoln R-RI

Chambless, Saxby R-Ga

Clinton, Hitlery D-NY

Cochran, Thad R-Ms

Coleman, Norm R-Mn

Collins, Susan R-Me

Conrad, Kent D-ND

Cornyn, John R-Tx

Corzine, Jon D-NJ

Craig, Larry R-In

Crapo, Mike R-Id

Daschle, Tom D-SD

Dayton, Mark D-Mn

DeWine, Mike R-Oh

Dodd, Christopher D-Ct

Dole, Elizabeth R-NC

Domenici, Peter R-NM

Dorgan, Byron D-ND

Durbin, Richard D-Il

Edwards, John D-NC

Ensign, John R-Nv

Enzi, Mike R-Wy

Feingold, Russell D-Wi

Feinstein, Diane D-Ca

Fitzgerald, Peter R-Il

Frist, Bill R-Tn

Graham, Bob D-Fl

Graham, Lindsey R-SC

Grassley, Charles R-In

Gregg, Judd R-NH

Hagel, Chuck R-Ne

Harkin, Tom D-Ia

Hollings, Ernest D-Sc

Hutchinson, Kay Bailey R-Tx

Inhofe, Daniel D-Hi

Jeffords, James I-Vt

Johnson, Tim D-SD

Kennedy, Edward D-Ma

Kerry, John D-Ma

Kohl, Herb D-Wi

Kyl, Jon R-Az

Landrieu, Mary D-La

Lautenberg, Frank D-NJ

Leahy, Patrick D-Vt

Levin, Carl D-Mi

Lieberman, Joseph D-Ct

Lincoln, Blanche D-Ar

Lott, Trent R-Ms

Lugar, Richard R-In

McCain, John R-Az

McConnell, Mitch R-Ky

Mikulski, Barbara D-Md

Murray, Patty D-Wa

Nelson, Benjamin D-Ne

Nickles, Don R-Ok

Pryor, Mark D-Ar

Reed, Jack D-RI

Reid, Harry D-Nv

Roberts, Pat R-Ks

Rockerfeller, John D-WV

Santorum, Rick R-Pa

Sarbanes, Paul D-Md

Schumer, Chuck D-NY

Sessions, Jeff R-Al

Smith, Gordon R-Or

Snow, Olympia R-Me

Specter, Arlen R-Pa

Stabenow, Debbie D-Mi

Stevens, Ted R-Ak

Sununu, John R-NH

Talent, James R-Mo

Thomas, Craig R-Wy

Voinovich, George R-Oh

Warner, John R-Va

Wyden, Ron D-Or

145 posted on 09/28/2003 8:57:03 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Thanks, get some rest. See you in the AM.
147 posted on 09/28/2003 9:01:40 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Yeh, the treasonous scum that passes for OUR government these days is even lower than that.
148 posted on 09/28/2003 9:05:07 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Does anyone have the house list? Please post it if you do.

I've called about 50 of the Senate today..plus my homeboys and Cornyn, Flake, McCain, and Kolbe who currently are sponsoring bills that favor illegals.

Most of the Senate you just leave a message when you are connected to _____'s office.

I've narrowed my points considerably, as I guess you've discovered, there isn't much message time.

Here's my own talking points I've used today:

I start out saying I'm calling to counter protest the Illegal Alien's Freedom Ride.

I remind them that they have no rights as they are illegal and non citizens.

Next I reminded them:

Less than 2% actually pick our lettuce

25% are on some form of public assistance; that amounts to roughly $20,000,000,000 per year from taxpayer's pockets.
Why should the taxpayer have to subsidize some business man's cheap labor?

In addition to that cost, they displace 730,000 American workers per year and depress the wages of the rest.

28% of our prison population is illegal aliens who have committed crimes against citizens.

Under 6% actually pay any taxes, but they send to Mexic0 $6-$8 Billion a year that they don't spend here.

Then I tell them I want;

I want you to get control of immigration.

I want you to vote down bills for hidden amnesties, worker programs, and rights and taxpayer subsidies for illegals.

No public assistance for illegals and their families. No anchor babies.

No Matricula Card acceptance, no driver's liscenses.

I remind them of 911 and I demand something be done about letting so many uninvestigated foreigners into this country.


I assure them of extreme anger across America on this issue, and that we aren't going to take it anymore. I assure them I'll be watching how they vote on the issue and vote accordingly, that they can no longer count on my acquiescence.

I usually run out of time about then LOL

How are you all doing? Have you had difficulties or stumbled on points that hit home?



149 posted on 09/28/2003 9:12:28 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: JustPiper
"The get to behave the way they want, follow their own set of rules because OUR government has constricted us concerning them!"

Yup. I was just listening to the Terry Anderson Show out of Los Angeles. He's on Sunday night from 8PM to 9PM and you can find his show at www.theterryandersonshow.com. He'll REALLY get you going about all of this and the people who call in will too. As one man said tonight, once they overwhelm us with numbers there could very well (almost with certainty) be a scenerio like this: They have control of California. California secedes from the United States (and many other states will do the same once they become predominantly illegal alien). All of the "elected" officials are Mexicans. They dig up old land documents from way, way back when Mexicans owned California for a short period of time. They use these old documents to prove that you don't own the land that your house sits on. They take your house. Far fetched? I don't think so. And apparently (quite obviously because not ONE illegal alien on this damned so-called "Freedom Ride" has been arrested) this is EXACTLY what our government wants. We are the people with no rights. We the people who built this country, paid taxes, raised children here, created prosperity. We are the people with NO RIGHTS. Something very, very, very massive is coming and it isn't going to be pleasant.
150 posted on 09/28/2003 9:14:46 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: JustPiper
Something else I wanted to say JustPiper about the mask thing. The man I live with now was very involved with Proposition 187 back in 1994 (before I knew him). He and all the other people involved with Proposition 187 received constant death threats. He wanted a permit to carry a weapon because his life was in danger. They wouldn't give it to him. There was a rally in Marin County and a Mexican guy WITH A MASK WHO HAD A MACHETE made a motion with that machete as if to slit Bill's throat. Bill complained to a policeman and the policeman said something like "Oh, but that's their culture."!!! So I guess if you get murdered by a Mexican with a machete that's just fine because "it's their culture dont'cha know?"

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone where everything that I have believed in all of my life has just become topsy turvy. I feel betrayed and hurt and angry. We need to organize a HUGE protest. We really, really do. If I had the money I would bankroll it and I would somehow someway get the attention of enough people (it would have to be in the millions) to fight back in the best way that we could think of. I'm ready now. I just don't know how to organize something like that or where to get the money.
151 posted on 09/28/2003 9:22:42 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: All
sign for counter protests:

The French Support Open Borders!

Support Lawyers who participate in ongoing Felonies!
(if they don't care about their law license, help them loose it)

Out of Control Borders are good for Socialism!

Democrats don't care about the law, why should illegal immigrants!

Gray Davis helps illegals get California Licenses, you should support criminal document fraud TOO!


152 posted on 09/28/2003 9:32:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Democrats don't care about the law, why should illegal immigrants!

Sadly, Republicans don't either! Most of the bills for worker programs and amnesty are Republican sponsored. Check it out!
153 posted on 09/28/2003 9:49:51 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: longtermmemmory
I like "Jobs for Americans" and "America's #1 export...Jobs, America's #1 import...Foreign workers!"
154 posted on 09/28/2003 9:56:26 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; chicagolady; All


CL please ping the Illinois Freepers, the bus could be headed their way.The Chgo Trib is one we are not suppose to post, so I will post exerpts from the paper about the March:

9-28
`Freedom ride' seeks new rights for immigrants
By William Grady

Thousands gathered in downtown Chicago on Saturday to cheer as about 180 Chicago-area residents set off on a nationwide "freedom ride" for immigrant workers that is intended to echo the civil-rights movement of the 1960s.

Three of the four buses from Chicago left for Michigan on a relatively direct trip to Washington and New York City. The fourth bus will wind its way through Illinois, with stops in Rockford, Springfield, Carbondale and other Downstate cities before turning east.

Graciela Contreras, a coordinator for Hispanic ministry for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago.
(Shows the Catholics are backing this)

many representing unions and community and religious groups--who plan to join in meetings Wednesday and Thursday with members of Congress and a rally next Saturday in New York.(more backers)

The freedom ride is part of a nationwide campaign begun by the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union to promote the legalization of undocumented workers
(THIS says it all! How does one join a union if they are ILLEGAL?!)

In Chicago, the rally at the Federal Plaza in the Loop attracted people from unions and groups such as ACORN, the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights and the Illinois Hunger Coalition. It also featured politicians such as U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), Illinois Senate President Emil Jones (D-Chicago) and Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White.
(2 more for the SELLOUT list!) Acorn ran the streets of downtown Chgo. Saturday with their little yello signs!)

"It's time that we fix our broken immigration laws," said Dan Schlademan, a vice president and organizing director of the Service Employees International, whose members include the janitors who clean buildings in Chicago and the suburbs. "They pay taxes. They're here because they want to take care of their families and there's nothing wrong with that."

A small group of counter-demonstrators, one carrying a flag with a swastika, protested from across Dearborn Street.

TaDA!



155 posted on 09/28/2003 10:13:18 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: vikingcelt; All
Being I also do not know how to bankroll something this huge, I asked for Freepers who have to lend a hand. We've had crosscountry protestsbefore.

I've been giving this alot of thought tonight, how to get sponsors for the buses, how maybe we may have to pay for our rooms with a discount group rate, etc. Somehow, someway the answers will come.

We had a crazy Mexican with a machete several months ago loose near a private North Pk. College. They had a massive search for him but never heard about it again, so I guess machete is the weapon of choice and that scares the bejesus outta me.
156 posted on 09/28/2003 10:25:24 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: vikingcelt
Well, considering we bought CA. fair and square and have supported it for about 150 years then we want restitution first!
157 posted on 09/28/2003 10:31:37 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; All; *immigrant_list; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; ...
We all agree on one thing here this has got to stop and we have an overwhelming job ahead of us.

If we break it down to the 50 states and get help from Freepers in each, we can do this better.

What I am proposing is study your state and politicians, media etc. Make a list for us of their names and organizations etc. We need to also find possible donors for OUR bus ride to DC for a weekend valley and those willing to contribute. We need politicians that back us on those buses.

So please compile your list and post it on this thread so we know the SELLOUTS and our ALLIES!!!
158 posted on 09/28/2003 10:35:17 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Pokey78; unspun; MightyMouseToSaveThe Day; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Kathy in Alaska; ...
Please forgive me if you get double pinged, but we need all the help we can get for volunteering and our eventual busride to DC!
159 posted on 09/28/2003 10:37:33 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: FairOpinion; Pro-Bush; BagCamAddict; ganeshpuri89; pokerbuddy0; cgk; Donna Lee Nardo; ...
Please forgive me if you get double pinged, but we need all the help we can get for volunteering and our eventual busride to DC!
160 posted on 09/28/2003 10:38:25 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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