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Second U.S. Judge Blocks 'Do-Not-Call' List
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Posted on 09/25/2003 4:10:17 PM PDT by Hotdog
War of the laws?...whats next?
TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: donotcalllist
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To: Hotdog
Funny how the courts easily find a (non-existant) "right to privacy" in the Constitution when it comes to issues like abortion and homosexuality, but can't seem to find the same right when it applies to telemarketing victims in their own homes.
Oh, well. Next will be the right for pornography peddlers to make obscene phone calls into your house with all that heavy breathing and stuff. Selective freedom of speech and the right to privacy is wunnerful......
Leni
To: Wingrider
#73 - Excellent point. All the law says is that the person must obey the posted sign. In this case, the sign is a register of who doesn't want to be called.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:32:19 PM PDT
by
PatrioticAmerican
(Read Travis McGee's Book! www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: elfman2
2) Whos really more misleading about their motives, CNN or the latest mortgage broker? I can't argue with that, lol
3) Walking down the streets also a necessity.
Walking down the street is also not in the privacy of my own home which is specifically under protection of the Fourth Amendment
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:33:47 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
To: mhking
See my post
here. Many are missing my point.
Heck with the telemarketers. Don't worry about them. They can't call you without a list.
THE LIST should be everyone's concern. Companies, Government and whoever else I'm missing, SELL our information for profit. Some without our consent, others with 'misled' consent. All and and all, when did our name and personal data become a commodity? AND why shouldn't we get a kick back?
m1-lightening posted that there is a Privacy Act Bill In Progress. THIS is the bill we need to support. If people can't sell our names, then there is NO LIST for the telemarketers to call you on.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:34:31 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: m1-lightning
Can you post the domain URL and keyword search you used to pull up the 'Privacy Act In Progress' info? The search link you gave me before 'timed out'.
Thank you in advance.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:36:24 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: steve-b
The solution to that is to ban ALL of themThey can't. See post #53
If all else fails, we will see an amendment get passed in two days.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:37:03 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
To: Texas Federalist
He ruled it was an unconstitutional infringement of the telemarketers free speech.The judge made a liberal ruling.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:40:54 PM PDT
by
FreeReign
(They're all babies!)
To: Diddle E. Squat
Why shouldn't you have the right to limit calls from politicians and Greenpeace if you wanted to? Hillary can interrupt your dinner, but some one working for a living the hard way can't? Interesting.
To: Calpernia
Thomasenter "privacy act" in the word/phrase box.
It's number 7.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:44:25 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
To: Diddle E. Squat
These companies are not restricted until someone requests that they be restricted from their particular phone that they OWN The phone is a receiver, like your radio or television. The phone line is the medium, not the phone. You have a right to receive what you want, and to filter the content. But the government does not have the authority to enable you to do it. It's a question of personal responsibility versus therapeutic government.
I personally like the DO NOT CALL list and even registered for it. But I can see how it violates free speech rights.
To: m1-lightning
Thank you.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:45:11 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: grayout
Is your right to quiet protected by the Constitution too? Yes, actually. Time, place and manner restrictions on the exercise of free speech have been recognized by the courts for a very, very long time. Try walking down a residential street with a bullhorn at 3 a.m., shouting political slogans, and you'll find out more than you ever wanted to know about this.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:45:27 PM PDT
by
Brandon
To: Held_to_Ransom
Why shouldn't you have the right to limit calls from politicians and Greenpeace if you wanted to? The Constitution doesn't allow Congress the authority to legislate that.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:46:43 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
To: not_apathetic_anymore
Caller ID doesn't help...once the phone rings I've been awakened. The trick is only having the phone ring for important stuff Ditto. I work nights, with a kid in school and a 73 year old mother with serious (as in life threatening) health problems. Phone rings at 1 p.m., and not answering it is not an option. My friends and family know not to call me during my sleeping time, unless it's an emergency. I don't need to be rudely awakened by some idiot trying to sell insurance or waffle irons.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:48:48 PM PDT
by
Brandon
To: Graybeard58
As much as I dislike telemarketers, the judge might be right. I don't see how telemarketers can be singled out and let politicians and charities continue to call anyone they please with their solicitations. 50 million people say they don't want telemarketers calling on there private phones. I think they have the right to do so -- you don't? Do you think that the BSA must associate with homosexuals?
It's called "Freedom of Association".
To: Vinnie
They should be required to display caller ID. They should be required to display caller ID for the CEO's home number -- the line in his living room, that he and his family answer themselves.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:50:00 PM PDT
by
Brandon
To: ladyinred
I am sick to death of judges playing dicator! This has to stop!</> I second that motion.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:50:00 PM PDT
by
softengine
(Judges - the preferred chew treat of 200lb Saint Bernards.)
To: massadvj
The phone is a receiver, like your radio or television.Who dials in which case? It makes a BIG difference.
You have a right to receive what you want, and to filter the content.
Does CNN have the right to ping your tv and interupt you when they want you to watch their program? Or do you have to actually dial up and contact them? BIG difference.But the government does not have the authority to enable you to do it.
Can I scream outside your house at 3 am and sell you a blender or is that against the law?
Some speach obviously CAN be legislated and the Do Not Call list is one of them.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:53:21 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
To: Professional
Bad law, bad idea, don't need the govt regulating our phones.Don't sign up on this list and then YOU won't get what YOU "don't need".
To: Calpernia
You bet. Sorry so slow but I'm on dial-up which coincidently get's interupted by telemarketers as well. I'm tired of redialing everytime.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:58:17 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify, a never-dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky.)
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