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CA: Recall Debate Live Thread
September 24, 2003
Posted on 09/24/2003 5:17:01 PM PDT by lainie
Got popcorn?
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TV:
- Fox News Channel
- KCOP-13 (UPN) (follows the Ricki Lake show, perhaps appropriately, we'll see)
- KCET-28 (PBS)
- KABC-7
LIVE AUDIO STREAMS OF THE DEBATE:
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arianna; arnold; bustamecha; camejo; debate; mcclintock; mcwampum; recall; recalldebate
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To: lainie
You can see the future lainie. Please mail me fridays megamillions numbers asap. You nailed it when you said: "What I DO want to hear is Arnold and Arianna get into it. Ten bucks says we won't be able to decipher a thing.
Anyway this is the way I saw it.
Tom wins Recall Debate.
Camejo a close number 2.
Bustamonte way back in third.
Arnold and Ariana locked in death wrestling match dead last.
Tom crushed the competition today, well everyone except for the green party guy who kept repeating something that for some reason no one could counter - that the rich in California pay a lower tax rate than the rest. Humm.
Some of the knockout hammer slaps issued by Tom where, for example, the ONLY statement opposing Illegal immigration- " .. we have millions willing to abide by our immigration laws but, Illegal Immigration is tantamount to cutting in line. Another crushing blow by Tom was:" People are taking their families and companies from beautiful California to the middle of the desert because of the Davis administration. Wow. He was the only one who even pronouned the words Pro Life, all the others where silent, except for Bustamonte who stated he was pro-choice. And then putting the last nail in Arnolds coffin, Tom stated in his closing remarks: He was the only one to pledge - No tax increase and also to cut spending.
Arnold showed complete disrespect to the debate process. Constantly interrupting Bustamonte and Arianna and engaging in Personal attacks on both of them. (Clearly Arianna attacked him personally also.) Arianna stated it well, "Ok Arnold, lets see which person with a foreign accent can speak loudest." If he thinks he'll be able to shout down all of them in Sacramento, he's nuts.
During one of the Arnold/huffington skirmishes, Adriana told Arnold that is much ballyhood Help - the - Children Program, that Arnold helped pass was nothing but a publicity stunt because it was not funded. Arnold then cut his own throat by replying that the bill had a spending trigger that would only activate once the budget woes were taken care of. Well, that means that his precious little bill will never get a cent! If he felt so strongly about the chlildren he would not have supported that spending trigger. Matter of fact if he loved children so much he would not support the killing of children even before they are born!
Its clear all the media is for Arnold. He was the only one given time after the debate on all the channels to explain how he felt after the debate. And Arnold may have realized he had not done well when he said that he hoped to work with Tom in Sacramento. That's if Tom will have him.
2,441
posted on
09/24/2003 8:51:07 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
(from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
To: brydic1
I and many republicans voted for Carter or set the election out I don't think I'd be bragging about that. We are still suffering from Carter. By your logic, we should be grateful for 8 years of Clinton because we now have Dubya to clean up the trash he left in the White House. Or better yet, you voted for Gore because Dubya can't quite walk on water. Gee, after 8 years of Gore, the nation would really be in a mess and we'll win then.
Puhleeze...
2,442
posted on
09/24/2003 8:51:18 PM PDT
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: RGSpincich
He made no reference to this. He said "I think I have the perfect part for you in Terminator 4"
To: RGSpincich
Since T3 featured a female cyborg that Schwarzenegger opposed to save humankind, Arianna spun that as a veiled attack to her in a specific way.
The big question is what a lot of viewers wanted to do to her...
To: RGSpincich
>> "Arianna was just on Greta Facelift (Fox News) and said Arnold made reference to a movie where a woman's face was pushed into a toilet. She said he implied he could get her the part or words to that effect. Is this true? " <<
NO. Arnold just said he thought that he had a part for her in Terminator 4. That could mean any number of things depending on one's imagination.
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
First of all, the woman in the last Terminator movie was a machine, not a real woman. Second, it was make-believe.
Sheesh, if the Terminator threw a bucket of water on Arianna or stuck her head in a toilet, I believe that she would melt. What a whiny, silly witch...with a capitol B.
Ah, how was Greta taking it? Sympathetic? Arianna should try that gripe on Oprah. (Not that Oprah would have Arianna on her show after tonight's performance.) She is such a pathetic phoney.
To: tpaine
"Thats just a gut feeling about the man, never having met him.."
Fair enough. He is no movie star.
"So, I'll take the easy way out, and vote for the personable clown.. Arnie can't hurt CA any worse than Jesse hurt Minn.."
You are voting for the guy with the best smile, not based on any positions? From what I heard of the debate, Arnie is going to have to come up with a little more money to run government than TMac. Again, that may be good intentions on the part of TMac, and I may be wrong with that assessment.
This is very interesting. I'm not trying to be an ass with any Arnold supporters or voters, just figuring out what makes people tick.
There was another poster who explained to me that she personally knows of young voters who are voting for Arnold not because of where he stands on the issues but because he is recognized by his movies. So, Arnold could be a complete tyrant and these "voters" would not even know it. In her mind, that was OK because he was going to get votes. That is freaking scary.
2,447
posted on
09/24/2003 8:52:10 PM PDT
by
Stew Padasso
(Please Californians. Vote McClintock! PS, I don't live there.)
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
LMAO!
Prairie
2,448
posted on
09/24/2003 8:52:28 PM PDT
by
prairiebreeze
(I have dozens of great taglines in my attic. I just can't climb up to get them.)
To: EternalVigilance
Yep
To: RGSpincich
Arianna was just on Greta Facelift (Fox News) and said Arnold made reference to a movie where a woman's face was pushed into a toilet. She said he implied he could get her the part or words to that effect. Is this true? I listened to 90% of the debate and did not hear this.
He offered her a part in Terminator 4. This is all in response to the LA Slimes Editorial today about how Arnold's a woman beater because he took glee in the dunking of the robot opponent head first into the toilet. Now, if he had just said that he was pretending it was Hilary's head...
2,450
posted on
09/24/2003 8:53:44 PM PDT
by
kingu
To: Afronaut
Not sure what the Kennedy-LBJ pictures mean. Will Cruz murder Davis?
To: section9
if Arnold wins and CAMPAIGNS heavy for McClintock, he might have a shot at the ultra lib Boxer
2,452
posted on
09/24/2003 8:54:26 PM PDT
by
votelife
(Free Bill Pryor)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
For the life of me, I will never understand that way of thinking. I swear, I just can't.
Idiots.
To: sd-joe
That could mean any number of things depending on one's imagination. The perfect insult.
To: Stew Padasso
So, Arnold could be a complete tyrant and these "voters" would not even know it Were electing a governor not crowning a king. If he sucks he'll be tossed out on his ass in four years.
To: Afronaut
your math skills could be improved. You scored mcc 9 and 8 seems to me that is 17,not 16.
2,456
posted on
09/24/2003 8:55:23 PM PDT
by
samantha
(Don't panic, the adults are in charge)
To: RGSpincich
Arianna said Arnold made reference to a movie where a woman's face was pushed into a toilet.
Arianna is a sore loser...can't she get the hint nobody and
I repeat nobody wants her as governor. How can she even show
her face with 1% in the poll....she got mad when Arnold confronted her on not paying taxes....well....LOL..too funny
To: novacation
LBJ stole elections in TEXAS for himself and for Kennedy.
He wrote the book for dead people having their voices heard.
2,458
posted on
09/24/2003 8:55:53 PM PDT
by
Afronaut
(Vote for me now. I’ll let you know what I believe later)
To: Smogger
Try a year and a half. Four more if Californians still want him...or her.
To: brydic1; hchutch; dighton
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Your half assed strategy consigned millions of families to an avoidable economic hell.
I have nothing more to say to Suslov conservatives like yourself - you make me physically nauseous.
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