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Federal Judges Dismiss ALL Claims of Democratic Senators (Texas Redistricting)
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| 09.12.2003
Posted on 09/12/2003 1:28:04 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
THREE JUDGE PANEL POURS OUT TEXAS DEMOCRATIC SENATORS
Laredo court dismisses all of their claims
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: redistricting; suicidewatch
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To: MeeknMing
TEXAS bump
81
posted on
09/12/2003 7:03:01 PM PDT
by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
To: MeeknMing
Good now maybe we can get down to the job of actually redistricting.
To: deport
Any bill can be introduced and passed in a special session in Texas... How so? Not arguing just trying to understand.....
Members in the Texas House or Senate file proposed bills with the clerk of their respective house. The Speaker (House) or Lt. Governor (Senate) then sends the bill to the appropriate committee and about hundred steps later (if all goes well) the bill is passed by both houses and goes to the Governor.
They saying goes that there are hundreds of ways a bill can die in the legislature, but only one way to pass it. In a special session there is simply one additional way to kill a bill, by raising a "point of order" that the bill is not authorized in the call of the special session by the Governor. A well founded point of order kills a bill, or at least send it back to point where it went out of order. Since a bill that is outside of the call is always out of order it would be dead.
Now that I think about it, it might be possible for the leadership to play a few games even in a special session. I was in the House Gallery in 1987 when a Republican raised a valid point order that a bill was not being brought up at its proper time (I don't recall why it had to be after or before a certain time, but it did). The Democrat Speaker, Gib Lewis, tried to ignore the member raising the point, but finally the shouts were too loud and he recognized him. The member made his point of order and Gib said:
"Oh yeah? Why don't you come up here and see what time my watch says. Overruled" (BANG went his 4' gavel)
Memories like make me contemptuous of Democrat cries about Republican heavy handedness. They're just pissed that they are not the ones banging the gavels for partisan advantage.
83
posted on
09/12/2003 7:32:24 PM PDT
by
Pilsner
To: Bubba_Leroy; MeeknMing
So which part of the ruling goes for the democRATs? Har! As any good Dim would tell you, if they didn't end up in the big house.......they WIN! You have got to sorta read between the lines, eh?
Thanky fer the ping Meek.
FGS
84
posted on
09/12/2003 7:38:38 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: Pilsner
thanks I think we are in agreement... I was just taking you point of any bill can be introduced and passed and I guess it can. But it certainly would be in violation of the State Constitution..... Anyway no big deal either way....
When the Legislature shall be convened in special session, there shall be no legislation upon subjects other than those designated in the proclamation of the Governor calling such session, or presented to them by the Governor; and no such session shall be of longer duration than thirty days.
Take care......
85
posted on
09/12/2003 7:49:14 PM PDT
by
deport
To: SolidSupplySide
maybe they should leave a trail of chads back to the capitol so they don't get lost......
To: SolidSupplySide
NOT SO FAST!!!
Folks, the media is the next line of Democratic defense if all appeals are exhausted. Right now, all national media outlets are preparing to interview the "courageous Dems." After the local and national media take turns attacking the R's, the next line of defense is GUILT--RINO GUILT which leads to a McCain-effect 5th column/mutiny. After rino-guilt is fully exhausted then comes BORKING key Republicans. And as this process goes on, they may run back to Oklahoma, Nuevo Mejico, or Looseanna and start the process over and over and over until someone retires from the field. The purpose for all actions is to demoralize the enemy, turn some from their allegience, and strengthen personal resolve.
Let me see: Who has a beter record of winning nasty political battles?
87
posted on
09/12/2003 8:05:16 PM PDT
by
sully777
(We have need of history, not to fall back on, but to see if we can escape from it--Ortega Y Gasset)
To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
They will be out of there in a New York minute--they figured they would win the suit. They may be back in time for the appeal.
88
posted on
09/12/2003 8:06:33 PM PDT
by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: SolidSupplySide
The Fleas done got bit!
Little bugs got littler bugs and so on infinitum....
Hi, y'all from Wisconsin (visiting my baby girl in her new house)
I will be so gloating on Tuesday. Our Republican women will have so much to cheer on Monday at our meeting.
Yahoooo!
89
posted on
09/12/2003 8:23:34 PM PDT
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
To: SolidSupplySide
90
posted on
09/12/2003 8:24:16 PM PDT
by
geedee
(Hillary and Beelzebub were conjoined twins separated from a hermaphroditic amoeba.)
To: netmilsmom
Don't feel bad about living in mi it could be worse.You could live in Laredo with the Democreeps that just got thier teeth kicked in by a group of lawabiding judges
91
posted on
09/12/2003 8:29:40 PM PDT
by
solo gringo
(Always Ranting Always Rite)
To: MeeknMing
Thank you for the ping.
I would have liked to see the judges stay out of the fines and sanctions, too. They're covered by the Senate rules.
I don't like the appearance that the judges are implying that not only may the fines be "moot," but that they'd *better* be moot.
92
posted on
09/12/2003 8:34:14 PM PDT
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
To: MEG33
The dim-wits are haveing a hell of a time trying to live with thier own laws.Join me in unelecting as many of these creeps as we can next election.VIVA TEXAS AND TEXANS.Thier race card failed again as it should have.
93
posted on
09/12/2003 8:38:56 PM PDT
by
solo gringo
(Always Ranting Always Rite)
To: sully777
Let me see: Who has a beter record of winning nasty political battles?
We'll see want we...... Seems that John Whitmire decided he best get back in Texas and show up at the Senate and make his fight on the Senate floor...... Or that is the story he's putting out after slipping back home and talking to his constituents......
94
posted on
09/12/2003 8:39:49 PM PDT
by
deport
To: solo gringo
Love the tagline!
95
posted on
09/12/2003 8:40:35 PM PDT
by
MEG33
To: Pilsner
""Memories like make me contemptuous of Democrat cries about Republican heavy handedness. They're just pissed that they are not the ones banging the gavels for partisan advantage""
Don't forget that for most of the history of Texas politics, there haven't been enough Republicans to break a quorum or block a blocker bill.
The blocker bill was used by Democrats to control Democrats!!!
96
posted on
09/12/2003 8:42:07 PM PDT
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
To: deport
Ah ha!It is getting clearer now about Whitmire.
97
posted on
09/12/2003 8:44:37 PM PDT
by
MEG33
To: MEG33
Whitmire quietly flew home during the Labor Day weekend and found his constituents opposed to redistricting but against a continued holdout. He returned to the Senate floor Friday for a news conference to declare that he would be there if a third session is called.
"I intend to fight redistricting on the Senate floor," he said. "I will be present."
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977068/posts
98
posted on
09/12/2003 9:02:03 PM PDT
by
deport
To: SolidSupplySide
We're winning, little by little, state by state, governor by governor.... next, Babs Baxter's seat in CA
99
posted on
09/12/2003 9:03:59 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(I spell stuff wrong sometimes, get over yourself, you're not that great.)
To: MeeknMing
Good news!!
100
posted on
09/12/2003 9:28:07 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(If you want breakfast in bed - - - sleep in the kitchen!)
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