Zogby has Bush at 45%; disapproval at 54% - gimme your thoughts

Zogby International ^ | Sep 6 | Zogby

[GodfearingTexan]

I guess this was posted before, but I never saw it. Can you smart people out there tell me what you make of this? Thanks.

[GodfearingTexan]

I hear you both. My thoughts are that this is a sound poll: likely voters, run during the week (not sure what time of day). I can tell you that Bush DOES care about his poll numbers, though. I feel that things are not "well in hand," despite the full faith I have in Karl Rove. I feel that the news on unemployment is spiraling. We need some level of relief for a lot of these out-of-work white collar men. After you stay unemployed for awhile, it starts to make you frustrated.

Reading some of these IT stories, I'm getting frustrated. I think Bush could make some money off this problem by fixing the H-1B thing and doing something about exporting jobs - on the face of it, I'm not sure what as yet. But he needs to make more noise about it, that's for sure.

The media is going to be after Bush even more if they see blood in the poll numbers. Something needs to be done, and I think we can't sit around much longer.

[Dane]

Zogby uses the answer "fair" as a negative answer. This answer fair is a cop out, IMO, it gives a pollee an out. I believe that if you were to split the "fair" answer on Bush's performance(1/2 positive and 1/2 negative) the aproval rating would be 54%.

Basically in accordance with other polls(Gallup, ABC-WashPost) which have Bush at 59% and 56% approval rating.

[eyespysomething]

What can I make of it? The election is 14 months away. A lot can happen in 14 months. Look what happened in a matter of hours 2 years ago.

[kimoajax]

IMHO, this far out from election day such polls tend to reflect the feelings and fancies of potential voters....meaning that those being polled tend to want their their frustrations, notions and desires, etc. be somehow heard" through their responses. However, as election day draws near and actual choices (and the consequense of such choices) become progressively clearer, then polls tend to more closely reflect what voters conclude is in their real best interest.

[Hans]

Most of the people I know, educated or otherwise,
are nothing but empty heads. Go boo! and they run
like little animals.

[glock rocks]

zogby special sauce

[joesnuffy]

Zogby = arab muslim

[Mr. Mojo]

I recall Zogby was the only one to predict the 2000 election

You're right, but times are different now (after 9/11). Zogby has an agenda -- he's an Arab who's been very critical of this administration's efforts in the WOT. So yes, I believe he's cooking the #'s.

[Coop]

Unfortunately I recall Zogby was the only one to predict the 2000 election. Rasmussen and a bunch of others were way off but Zogby thought it was too close to call.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I've refuted this claim. Almost every poll had the 2000 election as a very close race, especially after the DUI claim when undecideds broke for Gore.

We got a very close race. Zogby was not the only one who predicted that.

[Alissa]

Zogby predicted Hillary would lose the NY Senate race by 12%!

[smadurski]

fair is negative when you want the results to be negative

[LS]

No, he said that prior to 2000, but in 04, Zombie was not as accurate as others.

[Dane]

Since when is "Fair" a negative?

Exactly.

I guess Mr. Zogby takes his umbrella with him when the weatherman predicts "fair" skys.

[glock rocks]

did I miss a chapter, or has time gone nonlinear?

[mabelkitty]

He said they USED to be the most reliable.
He's Middle Eastern.....seems to have a bias in that area for some reason.

[Coop]

An even more recent ABC News/Wash Post poll shows Bush at 56% approval, 41% disapproval.

Here.

You'll see the Zogby poll is an outlier.

[Constitution Day]

Zogby's dead to me.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"I recall Zogby was the only one to predict the 2000 election"

Believe Z the day before the election. Then he will have to tell the truth.

[steve86]

Fair traditionally is used more like the term mediocre, as in "medium quality or commonplace".

From definition of fair from dictionary.com:

"Moderately good; Acceptable or satisfactory; gave only a fair performance of the play; in fair health".

Fair often has about the same meaning as the phrase "damning with faint praise".

Certainly not an unqualified positive endorsement.

[GodfearingTexan]

are pollsters like zogby affected by the no-call list?