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The Da Vinci Code - fact, fiction, or heresy?
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| 1 September, '03
| J, King
Posted on 09/02/2003 6:01:46 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Cicero
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posted on
09/02/2003 7:59:18 PM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
To: Cicero
The real underlying purpose of the stories of Jesus getting married and running off to France is to explain how Jesus was SEEN ALIVE after His crucifiction. Many people saw Him out of the tomb and it must be explained somehow other than supernaturally. The Muslims also say Jesus' followers gave Him poison on the sponge lifterd to His mouth that made Him appear to die. Then confederates robbed the tomb and gave Him the antidote. I find it reassuring that so many must try to explain why He was seen and not whether He was seen.
The problem is, some of this bilge is working it's way into the theologic academia and they are the ones teaching future priests and preachers. In many denominations today, they don't believe in the virgin birth, healings, resurections of the dead, especially Jesus'. If Jesus wasn't able to rise from the tomb, then why would anyone trust Him with their own resurection? Kinda takes the whole purpose of Christanity away. Why would someone want to be a priest for an impotent god?
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posted on
09/02/2003 8:08:30 PM PDT
by
chuckles
To: blam
Suprisingly, Dr Robert Schoch in his book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, thinks the Sumerians were the refugees from the Sunda Shelf (around Indonesia) and travelled all over the world spreading their pyramid building culture everywhere. The Sunda Shelf went underwater at the end of the Ice Age. I've never heard of this before, but it sounds vaguely plausible offhand. Interesting. One thing that has become clear as archaeology has improved, is that the ancient peoples traveled around the globe FAR more than we have historically given them credit for.
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posted on
09/02/2003 10:18:24 PM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: The Right Stuff
There is a tradition in Europe that the royal blood of the European houses can trace their lineage back to the children of Chirst and Mary Magdalen through the Carolingian (Charlemagne) line.
This was outlined in a scholarly book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" by Michael Baigent, Henry Lincoln, and Richard Leigh. The Priory of Sion does exist... but whether it was established to protect the "royal blood line of Jesus Christ" or is an ancient secret society for the protection of ancient secret kooks is unknown: members do not talk.
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posted on
09/02/2003 10:47:24 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
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To: The Right Stuff
Also the main theme of the book about the co-equal divinity of the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdalene, and Jesus and the "conspiracy" to hide the "sacred feminine" also exists:
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posted on
09/02/2003 10:58:29 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Tag line extermination service, no tagline too long or too short. Low prices. Freepmail me for quote)
To: chuckles
Why would someone want to be a priest for an impotent god?What? God is impotent without a virgin-born, resurected Jesus? Like in the entire old testament?
46
posted on
09/02/2003 11:00:19 PM PDT
by
Shryke
To: cookcounty
I think the story of Atlantis is another version of the Flood story.
47
posted on
09/02/2003 11:09:27 PM PDT
by
yhwhsman
("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
To: The Right Stuff
Personally, I found the book highly over-rated. The writer plays pretty fast and loose with the scholarship angle, though if you respect the opinion of theological "scholars" that believe a homosexual bishop is just dandy, I guess it's up to you.
Trite and banal is all I could think of the book. It reads like a teleplay, and not a particularly good one either. I got about three quarters of the way through on its reputation, and figured is wasn't going to get any better, so I didn't even care enough to finish it. I'd already had a belly full of that cheap literary device of telling the reader the protagonist found something significant, then waiting five pages to tell what it was.
Also, it almost seemed like plagerism for the writer to flood the landscape of his story with historically great works of art. Kind of a literary equivalent to the nut-case that has a collection of pictures of himself with notable celebrities.
The "sacred feminine" the protagonist explains as an ostensibly neutral observer just showed a lack of guts on the part of the writer in that while our hero takes no position, he speaks rather reverentially of the ancient gnosis.
All in all, I thought the book was the offering of a very gifted person with a tainted taste for the tawdry.
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posted on
09/02/2003 11:34:01 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
To: The Right Stuff
Hi, Jenn. Long time............FRegards
49
posted on
09/03/2003 2:46:36 AM PDT
by
gonzo
( I'm still tryin' to figger-out how much I can get away with and still get into Heaven......)
To: Cicero
After reading the review, I came to the conclusion that she didn't like the book! The review reminded me of two books by Umberto Eco, "THE NAME OF THE ROSE" and Foucault's Pendulum.
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posted on
09/08/2003 4:03:33 AM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: The Right Stuff
I just finished the book and liked it very much. I found this (
http://www.lulu.com/content/11494)[download the .pdf file], which is 'a reader's guide' to the book and apparently it explains a lot of the premises found in the book. Also, on the www.danbrown.com website, there is a FAQ which addresses his sources.
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posted on
10/27/2003 11:29:59 AM PST
by
Snowy
(Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
To: Swordmaker
I thought the book made the point that the the lineage was throught the Merovingian line and that Charles Martel, founder of the Carolingians, was a usurper.
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posted on
10/27/2003 12:27:23 PM PST
by
CaptRon
To: Cicero
#15/#19 bump.
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posted on
10/27/2003 12:36:05 PM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Aquinasfan
#15/#19 bump. Have you read the book?
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:37:36 PM PST
by
Snowy
(Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
To: CaptRon
I thought the book made the point that the the lineage was throught the Merovingian line and that Charles Martel, founder of the Carolingians, was a usurper. You may be right... It has been many, many years since I read the book.
To: Snowy
Have you read the book? No. But I know and trust Crisis Magazine.
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posted on
10/28/2003 7:46:00 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Aquinasfan
No. But I know and trust Crisis Magazine. You should not comment on a book you haven't read. Never be afraid to do your own research and thinking.
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posted on
10/28/2003 7:50:35 AM PST
by
Snowy
(Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
To: The Right Stuff
I've read it. Not bad, but basically a cheap potboiler. Brown got most of his conspiracy theory from Baigent et al.'s
Holy Blood, Holy Grail, which came out in the early 1980's a created quite a little cottage industry in the paranoia literature, linking the Knights Templar, Rosicrucians, Freemasonry, renaissance Hermetic magic, the Crusades, and a variety of other esoteric arcana into one giant conspiracy theory.
Great fun stuff for people who like The X-Files. I would neither take it too seriously nor be offended.
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posted on
10/28/2003 8:00:04 AM PST
by
Cincinatus
(Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
To: Snowy
You should not comment on a book you haven't read. Is it OK to comment on a review of a book by a magazine that I respect?
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posted on
10/28/2003 8:02:00 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Aquinasfan
Is it OK to comment on a review of a book by a magazine that I respect? Sure, as long as you keep in mind that there is no way that your magazine could say anything possitive about the book. It would be like PETA serving ribs at one of their functions.
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posted on
10/28/2003 8:12:42 AM PST
by
Snowy
(Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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