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pizza man bomb-collar photo released
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Posted on 09/02/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by evets

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: _Jim
WHY wasn't this guy working on a DESCRIPTION for the police while he waited for the bomb squad if he was actually kidnapped for this robbery

Probably the stupidest question of the year. If it were me the last thing I could focus on is calmly giving the police a description while they run away from me.

up until that comment I was willing to give you slack about not being some sort of gov't paid shill. Now I need to chose between that or a nutcase.

81 posted on 09/02/2003 12:16:09 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: blackdog
LOL!!!

I thought maybe it was of *those* nifty *toys* used, so they can say....'whip me, beat me, make me write bad checks.....
and bad bank robbing notes'.

82 posted on 09/02/2003 12:16:26 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: JOE6PAK
"Did the bomb blow his head off?

"No, but his neck was missing.

83 posted on 09/02/2003 12:16:40 PM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: _Jim
You're right...Why wasn't he giving a description or telling the details of whomever "hijacked" him. Sounds like the phone call was just a ploy to meet someone he knew and in the end, he detonated it himself. Probably an ex-con deal.
84 posted on 09/02/2003 12:17:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: JerseyHighlander
I wonder if the alphabet soup goobers are looking at the lists of pizza's delivered in the past six months? I'm sure this guy had to be probed or summed up on previous occasions by those involved?

Pizzaria's are also notoriously ethnic businesses. I wonder what nationality persists in the owner or his circle of friends?

85 posted on 09/02/2003 12:17:34 PM PDT by blackdog ("I hope that it's only amnesia, my friends think I'm permanantly insane")
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To: JOE6PAK
Did the bomb blow his head off?

Yes it did. You could see it on the film. It was posted on another thread.

Reminds of the one on the Columbian woman, Elvia Cortes in 2000.
Colombian Collar Bomb Story

Elvia Cortes before this bomb (put there by FARC scumbags) blew her head off.

This is a very popular means of extortion in Colombia/Venezuela. It is no longer sensationalized because they fear it will spread, but it has spread nonetheless. Venezuelan police have successfully disarmed one not long ago.

86 posted on 09/02/2003 12:18:13 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: _Jim
What does the phrase "working to arrive at" indicate to you - that you a) have arrived at a solution or b) are working toward a solution? I thought I was quite clear, but, maybe not for you ...

What's your point? As far as I can tell, your only point is that I am undecided.

I conjecture, however, that you are decided.

87 posted on 09/02/2003 12:18:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: VRWC_minion
up until that comment I was willing to give you slack about not being some sort of gov't paid shill.

Retired shill who cannot shake the bad habit. That's my best guess.

88 posted on 09/02/2003 12:20:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lazamataz
So far nothing's adding up.

Characteristic reply by one who is assuming the individual involved had the faculties, mental resources and current prescence of mind that *you* have when you look at this thing (presumably) rationally.

Inability to put yourself into his shoes, into his mental state, into his frame of mind will blind you to what he saw, what he perceived - whether it was crushing, mounting debt, the threats of a loved one wanting to leave a marriage or the state about to take his children ...

89 posted on 09/02/2003 12:20:49 PM PDT by _Jim (Resources for Understanding the Blackout of 2003 - www.pserc.wisc.edu/Resources.htm)
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To: blackdog
Also rare if it's a one-shot. Although the next one might be a litttle less obvious than a neck collar.
90 posted on 09/02/2003 12:21:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Bon mots
That's a good reminder...I remember that story now.

It's a long shot, but maybe they've modified their M.O. a bit...

91 posted on 09/02/2003 12:21:14 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: _Jim; blackdog
Overblown appraisal ... based on what - a very poor quality picture of the 'collar cuff' on a website?

Um. _BATF? You might wanna quit when you're behind. blackdog sounds like he knows a little about metalworking.

92 posted on 09/02/2003 12:21:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: mommadooo3
Yeah! A guy walks into a bank with a neckcuff bomb around his neck in a rubber mask and a gag, hands the teller a note that say's "mistress Devine Ouch sent me to humiliate myself and while I'm here, hand me all the cash. And if you want to put that cigarette out on my nipple, I'd consider it a kind parting moment"!
93 posted on 09/02/2003 12:21:38 PM PDT by blackdog ("I hope that it's only amnesia, my friends think I'm permanantly insane")
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To: evets
It's an industrial compressed gas bottle holder, intended for securing gas bottles.
94 posted on 09/02/2003 12:21:58 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater (Give often and generously to the Bush campaign)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm sorry, your bid was not high enough - now they must pay the penalty.


95 posted on 09/02/2003 12:22:06 PM PDT by UseYourHead
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To: _Jim
Inability to put yourself into his shoes, into his mental state, into his frame of mind will blind you to what he saw, what he perceived - whether it was crushing, mounting debt, the threats of a loved one wanting to leave a marriage or the state about to take his children ...

That's a reasonable statement.

One of the first you have made on this thread so far.

96 posted on 09/02/2003 12:22:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: UseYourHead
LOL! Shatner was such a freakin' overacting ham.
97 posted on 09/02/2003 12:22:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Barry Goldwater
It's an industrial compressed gas bottle holder, intended for securing gas bottles.

Really! Interesting.

98 posted on 09/02/2003 12:23:24 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Bon mots
Jesus H. Christ.
99 posted on 09/02/2003 12:24:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: evets
It's an industrial compressed gas bottle holder, intended for securing gas bottles.
100 posted on 09/02/2003 12:24:47 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater (Give often and generously to the Bush campaign)
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