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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: blueriver
Has anyone here figured out if Michael Schiavo has a job or is he mooching off this girl? I've not heard if he's in pest control, white collar, salesman, engineer. Pity if he's mooching off the girl until he decisively wins the right to starve his wife.
641 posted on 09/01/2003 8:36:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
I copied it strait from the Pinnellas county records page. The subdivision is called NorthWood West. Michael is very clever - he never puts the home that they live in in his name. It is always in Jodi Centonze 's name. He is a sly one.
642 posted on 09/01/2003 8:38:04 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: floriduh voter
He is get this a nurse and a respitory therapist!
643 posted on 09/01/2003 8:39:40 PM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: floriduh voter
I know in 1995 he was going to school full time to become a nurse. He must have graduated by now.
644 posted on 09/01/2003 8:41:36 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: floriduh voter
"Do you think this is all money driven or they are trying to make society more secular, i.e. wherein eventually our individuality doesn't matter at all or our right to life."

The more I search, the more disturbed I get. Can't kick the idea of a potential 'Project on Death in America' connection. Soros' mother died in Florida. I CAN'T FIND OUT WHERE!! Still looking, of course! Felos' associations in weird death movements would lead me to believe there's a connection here. Also, take a look at this book title...

Soros
The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire
By Michael T. Kaufman

I'm so caught up in this that I'm not really sure WHAT I'm trying to hone in on. Motive for small fry is probably money and 15 minutes....with others???

We've known for years that the opposition was trying to make inroads in regard to the 'value of human life'. From what I'm reading, the opposition is much more formidable than I imagined.


645 posted on 09/01/2003 8:42:38 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime; kimmie7; dandelion
http://www.hospicepatients.org/is-the-hospice-A-faithful-Steward-of-Donations.html

That's an in your face link lambasting Hospice of Suncoast Pinellas. There's even a dollar bill with the Director's image as a cow in the center.

At the bottom there is an email address to Hospice Board Member Lenderman whose brother happens to be Judge Lenderman.

In between is a wealth of information about salaries of Hospice Directors. The use of not for profit funds by the directors, IRS violations. THIS PAGE IS THE MOTHER LODE re: Hospice improprieties.

646 posted on 09/01/2003 8:55:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
BUMP
647 posted on 09/01/2003 8:58:23 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Stop sucking up all of our oxygen, Bill and Hill and just GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
He may live in a dive neighborhood for all we know.

According to the real estate records it is a very nice neighborhood. (Not cheap). Did a mapquest but not sure how to post it.

648 posted on 09/01/2003 9:06:29 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: blueriver
I looked it up on a florida medical licensing board. He is a registered respitory therapist but not a certified one and he is also a registered nurse. Here are the links to the 3licenses that I found for him.
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?IDNUM=780855
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?IDNUM=770024
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?IDNUM=349686
649 posted on 09/01/2003 9:06:50 PM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: windchime
I know -- after you've seen about 20,000 Google results, it becomes a blur. I'll be looking into this group/movement tonight. Didn't have time earlier today.
650 posted on 09/01/2003 9:21:02 PM PDT by kimmie7 (PRAY FOR TERRI SCHIAVO!!)
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To: floriduh voter
THIS PAGE IS THE MOTHER LODE re: Hospice improprieties.


It surely is! Good find!
651 posted on 09/01/2003 9:26:36 PM PDT by windchime
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To: kimmie7
"I'll be looking into this group/movement tonight."


I haven't actually examined the site well. Got bogged down in trying to see if there's a connection to Terri's case.
652 posted on 09/01/2003 9:30:20 PM PDT by windchime
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To: dandelion
Congressman Bilirakis serves on the Hospice Board of Directors. There are actually three boards because there are profits and non-profits. The salaries at the top are sky high. The url for the page I found on Hospice is above this one. They've done it all. Anyway, here's Bilirakis' email. I sent him a detailed email and probably insulted him for rubber stamping Hospice's actions.

bilirakis.gus@leg.state.fl.us

Barbara Sheehan Todd also serves on the Hospice Board. She was a County Commissioner the same time Judge Greer was. I emailed her too. That email address is on the url which is above this one somewhere. I keep saying goodnight but I am so hungry for information about this. I wish they'd get slapped with the RICO Act - just my opinion.

653 posted on 09/01/2003 9:37:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
That's within 5 minutes of the house where hubby grew up. I can ask him tomorrow about the neighborhood.
654 posted on 09/01/2003 9:41:09 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: blueriver
"According to the real estate records it is a very nice neighborhood. (Not cheap). Did a mapquest but not sure how to post it. "

No house in that city is cheap. Hubby's parents got a lot more money out of their house in Dunedin than I would pay for the same size house and lot here in GA. Their house was only about 5 minutes from this guy.
655 posted on 09/01/2003 9:45:31 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: lakey
I am riveted by this situation. When I saw the videos of Terri, she didn't appear to be a coma case at all. Pictures are worth a thousand words. If you want pings, please see my tag line.
656 posted on 09/01/2003 9:46:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: dixiegrrl
Not in a million years would I pick him as a nurse or respiratory therapist. I wouldn't want him around me. If his face gets too well known, patients will kick him out of their rooms.
657 posted on 09/01/2003 9:49:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: blueriver
Since we're not tailing him, familiar cross streets without an actual address would be sufficient and not get us in hot water with the admin mod. If he goes to Court tomorrow, I hope he's swamped with national and local media.
658 posted on 09/01/2003 9:53:57 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
I wonder if this poem is the same Michael Schiavo. Schiavo seems like an unsual name to me so I wondered...

From: http://www.shampoopoetry.com/ShampooTwelve/schiavo.html

Michael Schiavo
‘You Seek a Great Fortune’

Letting loose the children to the graveyard, she becomes
A bog filled with mosaic women, tiny-breasted, lithe,
A place to recite the alphabet backwards, forwards -- again,
Meaning now a pauper to the Creole at the bottom of the stairs.

Of our scrupulous testing, which never ceases to condemn me:
Is a high song, the chorale majestics of the crossroads
Closed on Sunday, “the good day” to be closed,
Or a page from a burgundy book taken to the Restaurant
Poetry and wolfed, but not the kind you think of, the word uttered “with”
On a stage propped against the leeward side of a hogback.

“The hollyhocks in the bee glade.” These words. These words
Descending upon every fatal ear, which is every ear, which is
The most annoying part of all this. Apologies to our tenants:
We’re making duplicate keys. Be patient. You’ll soon be in.

659 posted on 09/01/2003 9:55:13 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: honeygrl
strike that.. the above guy lives in CT according to the contributors notes. sorry.
660 posted on 09/01/2003 9:57:08 PM PDT by honeygrl
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