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Phase Three? The enemy is growing desperate
NRO ^ | 8/21/2003 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/21/2003 6:44:39 PM PDT by Utah Girl

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1 posted on 08/21/2003 6:44:40 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Our real problem? We must shed our complacency that has habitually arisen after the absence of another 9/11 attack in the United States, and the rapid victories in Afghanistan and Iraq, and press on. Either the Middle East will be a breeding ground for terrorists and rogue regimes that threaten sober nations and peoples the world over, from Manhattan to Jerusalem, or it will desist and join the rest of the world. It really is as simple as that.

I think those of us willing to see understand that...it's the other party and its adherents.....

May they never regain the WH!

2 posted on 08/21/2003 6:54:00 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: MEG33
bttt
3 posted on 08/21/2003 6:55:00 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Molly Pitcher
It is more than the other party. Why is Bush appeasing Palestinian terrorists?
4 posted on 08/21/2003 6:55:56 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: Utah Girl
Maybe our media culture is actually providing valuable defeatist disinformation so our enemies will be all the more astounded by our real might and resolve? Of course, that would be unwittingly on their (medias') part.
5 posted on 08/21/2003 7:05:14 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: Utah Girl
This guy needs to go back to the war college and still be teaching future generals.

I think Ralph POeters shouls go back into the job also, as much as I like his stuff under Owen Parry pen name.

6 posted on 08/21/2003 7:07:28 PM PDT by dts32041 ("moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
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To: dts32041
peters should
7 posted on 08/21/2003 7:07:54 PM PDT by dts32041 ("moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
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To: Utah Girl
Good post.
8 posted on 08/21/2003 7:07:58 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Utah Girl
Thank you for the VDH post. It is always heartening to read a coherent, right thinking, long term optimist.
9 posted on 08/21/2003 7:07:58 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BULLDOZE AL AQSA!)
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To: dts32041
Hanson has recently taught at Annapolis.
10 posted on 08/21/2003 7:08:35 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: LarryM
To buy time and handle one bunch of terrorists at a time rather than fight the whole middle east at once IMO.

I think there are at least 40% terrorist among those populations and to take them all on at once is impossible.
11 posted on 08/21/2003 7:09:58 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Utah Girl
*BUMP* !
12 posted on 08/21/2003 7:12:20 PM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: LarryM
Appeasement would not be my choice of words.

My thought is that the President made the right move....away from the Arafat leadership, and Abbas was it.

If Abbas does not control the terror, then we've reached a dead end on the road map to peace.

13 posted on 08/21/2003 7:12:57 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: Utah Girl
Phase Three? The enemy is growing desperate

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For hundred of years Mohammedan armies conquered much of the known world with massed armies. Mohammed, himself, led numerous military campaigns. In these days:

1) Massive concentrated frontal military campaigns are suicide. They would result in complete annialation by air power.

2) Political correctness and cultural diversity have resulted in reluctance to identify the raw fundamental nature of any problem, including that of Mohammedism. Even our own befuddled president calls Islam a religion of peace.

3) Within the context of reality avoidance and ludricrous over-tolerance, Mohammedism had found itself able to break its armies up into guerilla groups and attempt to reconquer the world while we wander about in denial attempting to resolve immobilizing claims about who are the peaceful versus non-peaceful Islamics. Mohammedism is not running desperate or scared. It is working smart. We are losing as bodies pile up in nemerous countries every day.

14 posted on 08/21/2003 7:24:07 PM PDT by RLK
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...The current indiscriminate killing was a strategic mistake. It is a sign of desperation and can only unite the global community in its belief that terrorism, suicide murdering, and the agents of rogue regimes realy do constitute a nexus of opposition to the forces of civilization...

I think Professor Hanson is too optimistic. He ignores the obsessive hatred of the American and European Left for President Bush...they would gladly sabotage the American efforts to combat terrorism if it would make Bush's re-election in 2004 less likely.

Remember State Department official J. Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation last February: "this Administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally."

15 posted on 08/21/2003 7:40:01 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: LarryM
maybe to show the world that arafat is full of crap and that arabs are no good at peace in Isreal. If you hold out your hand and tell your friends to watch the response, then your friends are forced to admit they have been mistaken.<
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Today Powell told the world the the PA must disarm Hamas. Four months ago he was telling Isreal to step back. The game has changed. In six months when the arabs are pushed into the sea and their homes leveled they will ask for some new rules. Too late.
16 posted on 08/21/2003 7:40:49 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: RLK
So what's your solution my friend?

I know what mine would be, but I'm interested in yours.

L

17 posted on 08/21/2003 7:43:55 PM PDT by Lurker (A 'moderate' Arab is one who carries a grudge for less than 8 generations.)
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To: Lurker
So what's your solution my friend? I know what mine would be, but I'm interested in yours.

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Forst, no more wimpy confusion and denial. Mohammedism must be explained as being the aggressively psychotic rabble yhat it is and which has killed tens of millions of people ocer the centuries. That's what Bush should have said after 9/11.

We are not the only one with the proble. India has seen 35,000 people killed in one of its states alone by Mohammedans in the last ten years. India continues to lose over 100 people a night to Mohammedan violence. Indonesia has lost 10,000 in the last several years.

We have allies in our problems with Mohammedism. Gather them together and expunge Islam from the face of the earth befor it expunges us from the face of the earth. Call it a counter-Mohammedan Jihad.

18 posted on 08/21/2003 8:04:43 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
OK, so we are both thinking along the same lines.

Regards,

L

19 posted on 08/21/2003 9:06:07 PM PDT by Lurker (A 'moderate' Arab is one who carries a grudge for less than 8 generations.)
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To: Verginius Rufus; eyespysomething
I believe this quote posted by eyespysomething may appropriately identify the American and European Left for what they are....

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.
20 posted on 08/21/2003 9:22:43 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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