Busload Arrested and Led Away from Ten Commandments

WTVM ^ | 08-20-03

[Selmo]

Supporters of Chief Justice Roy Moore have been handcuffed and led away from the Ten Commandments monument in Montgomery. They had refused to leave the monument after Moore lost a last-ditch appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court this afternoon. The federal judge who ordered the monument's removal is now expected to consider a contempt of court finding on Friday. That could set the stage for the monument to be removed ... or fines imposed on the state.

Scores of Moore supporters sang and prayed outside the building as about 20 inside were removed from the rotunda. It wasn't immediately known if they would be charged by Montgomery police.

Associate Justice Douglas Johnston issued a statement saying he had proposed moving the monument to a private area of the judicial building after six o'clock this evening. He said that would avert any fines while Moore pursues appeals that could take months. But he said fewer than five of the justices concurred, and his proposal was not approved.

The associate justices have indicated they may take action later.

Stay tuned to News Leader 9 for complete Skyteam 9 live coverage.

[Chummy]

Among the thousands of books in my collection is a little one written by your reference, Mr. Jefferson: it's called the Jefferson Bible.

You've taken the great man out of context like so many others, and it's not lost on those of us who know better the man and genius.

[mysonsfuture]

Would someone please intelligently inform me as to why President Bush has not come out strongly for judge Moore. Isn't this a no-brainer for him both philosophically and politically? If he does nothing he loses his base!~ White House comment line-(202)456-1111.

[concerned about politics]

Congress shall make no law . . .

Doesn't say anything about the Supreme Court prohibiting religion.

The SCOTUS doesn't write laws. They interpret the laws written - or at least, that's what they're suppose to do. Instead, today, the liberal activists take the law into their own hands and rule by facist left wing litigation.

[WOSG]

"Render to Caesar."

Caesar was a dictator. You know, the kind of Government we overthrew from 1776 to 1782.

[Zack Nguyen]

Rule of law, Palladin. Render to Caesar.

Should Caesar be unrestrained by the Christian ethic? For that is really what this debate is about, not just a hunk of granite. Will American be ruled by the mind of man or the mind of God?

[sinkspur]

Caesar was a dictator.

Yes. And Jesus told His disciples to render to Him.

[WOSG]

"How a federal judge, how any judge may conclude that it has the power to restrict a citizen's free exercise of religion based on but half of the equation is tyranny alive."

It's a curious and wholly wrong decision, to be sure. But in line with other abominable decisions that have restricted legitimate free excercise of religion in recent years.

Hopefully, the USSC will do the right thing and overturn it.

[Selmo]

Now, what I'm going to say is going to make some of you angry. But I feel that when well-intentioned American men fight in the Middle East, they end up supporting THIS. They end up supporting a crew of people who yearn to carve the heart out of our country.

What crew would that be? What does the Decalogue issue have to do with the Iraq war?

[Lancey Howard]

It's time to stand and fight.

Second amendment bump.

[sinkspur]

Will American be ruled by the mind of man or the mind of God?

Both. Jesus said to render to Caesar AND to God.

[WOSG]

Thanks for the pictures of the inscriptions of the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court building.

How long has it been there?

How can the USSC *not* grant a State supreme court the right to do WHAT THEY THEMSELVES DO!

[mysonsfuture]

Or all move to Alaska and demand succession.

[sinkspur]

But I feel that when well-intentioned American men fight in the Middle East, they end up supporting THIS. They end up supporting a crew of people who yearn to carve the heart out of our country. It has gone on for a long time, now, but I just can't see any end to this...

Don't send your sons to fight in the Middle East, folks. And if you can, politely discourage others from doing so, too.

You dishonor brave men, gaijin.

You're not worthy of their sacrifice, you greasy little cretin.

[Destro]

PS: I have always posted PRO-Christian posts. That does not mean I get to change history to be as I wished it to be.

Our Founding Fathers own words "damn" them: Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

3rd President of the United States

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisioned ; yet we have not advanced on inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."

Notes on Virginia

"They (the christian clergy) believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility to every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

To Sr. Benjamin Rush, 1800

"On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind."

To Carey, 1816

John Adams (1735-1826) 2nd President of the United States

As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that has ever existed?"

Letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

" Indeed, Mr. Jefferson, what could be invented to debase the ancient Christianism, which Greeks, Romans, Hebrews, and Christian factions, above all the Catholics, have not fraudulently imposed upon the public? Miracles after miracles have rolled down in torrents, wave succeeding wave in the Catholic church, from the Council of Nice, and long before, to this day."

To Jefferson, Dec. 3, 1813

Ethan Allen (1737-1789) American Officer in the Revolutionary War

"I have generally been dominated a Deist, the reality of which I never disputed, being conscious I am no Christian, except mere infant baptism makes me one; and as to being a Deist, I know not strictly speaking, whether I am one or not."

Reason ,the Only Oracle of Man, 1784, Bennington, Vt. ; Scholars Facsimiles and Reprints, N.Y.C.

[Antoninus]

Holy Cow, sinkspur! You are a Deacon of the Catholic Church. Now you are opposed to the public display of the Ten Commandments?

He doesn't speak for me or the Catholic Church on this issue. In his warped mind, the "rule of law" means no public displays of religion and a fundamental right to sodomy. Sounds like just the kind of country I want to live in.

[an amused spectator]

I always applaud upholding the rule of law.

There is no law in McMinn County...

[Chummy]

It's just about doggone time that folks wake up and see and appreciate the glorious blessings we've been given as a nation, and that among these is the freedom to practice religion freely.

The courts have no say in this beyond what is expressed in the US Constitution: 1) does the law concern the establishment of a religion (as concerned the Danbury Baptist Association in writing President Jefferson) or, 2) does the law prohibit the free exercise of religion?

I'd say -- as would a score or more other Freepers this evening -- that leading a man away in handcuffs is an extreme example of prohibition!

[Zack Nguyen]

Both. Jesus said to render to Caesar AND to God.

He certainly did - but I think you misunderstand the verse. Jesus never said that God and government were separate. Government is not a law unto itself, and that is what the ACLU wants. Nothing in this world is. All things are accountable to Him, most assuredly government. Jesus was simply reinforcing the idea that we are all citizens on earth as well as heaven.

[WOSG]

"Are you glad the SCOTUS struck down the TX sodomy law? Next it will be legal for the sodomists to do it to our little sons and grandsons."

There are certain folks who cant help but be beholden to the corrupt mindset of the ACLU. maybe misguided by false constitutional theories, or overly fond of Judicial tyranny. It has a certain Platonic appeal, these imperial culture-kampf warriors and law-makers.

Dunno how to help why that is offensive to freedom. It just seems so OBVIOUS to me: Judicial tyranny ==> End of Rule of Law ==> End of Freedom.

THIS THE MOST DANGEROUS TREND IN OUR ENTIRE CULTURE AND POLITICAL/LEGAL SYSTEM.

Dont trust any Judge who invokes "penumbras".