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New Dinosaur Species Found in India
AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:02:05 PM PDT by nwrep

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By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM, Associated Press Writer

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

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The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

India has seen quite a few paleontological discoveries recently.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.


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KEYWORDS: acanthostega; antarctica; australia; catastrophism; crevolist; dino; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; ichthyostega; india; madagascar; narmadabasin; narmadensis; paleontology; rajasaurus; rino
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To: jennyp
Because Big Bang is the prevailing theory of evolutionists of how life occurred on earth. There are other theories, but I'm addressing the primary theory. It is all part of the "evolutionary package."
1,221 posted on 08/18/2003 10:19:50 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: Virginia-American
His own observations of which many have been abandoned. But the misunderstanding is fine. It's late and I can't even type coherently any more. Going to bed.
1,222 posted on 08/18/2003 10:21:46 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
..of which many have been abandoned..

Which ones?

1,223 posted on 08/18/2003 10:23:07 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Alamo-Girl
I have checked out this Brane theory that you keep talking about, and all I get is a brain ache.

I don't understand 1/2 of it.

Geez, you really study some esoteric and complicated stuff AG.

I am just floored every time I look at stuff like that.

You continue to impress me, WOW!!

Megahugs!!
1,224 posted on 08/18/2003 10:23:22 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: general_re
And yet...here you are. Strange...

Here, and pointing your way while uttering "you're number one."

I'll leave you with this:


Good night. ~MM

1,225 posted on 08/18/2003 10:25:03 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: DittoJed2
Because Big Bang is the prevailing theory of evolutionists of how life occurred on earth. There are other theories, but I'm addressing the primary theory. It is all part of the "evolutionary package."

Huh? Big bang is a cosmological theory. What does it have to do with anything else? Doesn't it stand or fall on its own merits, just like any other theory?

As Jennyp pointed out, Darwin certainly never heard of such a thing as big bang theory. He just studied life as it is.

1,226 posted on 08/18/2003 10:25:58 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: DittoJed2
It is all part of the "evolutionary package."

No it's not! The only thing the Theory of Evolution "needs" from cosmology (for the ToE to not be falsified) is for the Earth to be at least 4 billion years old, and that only because the oldest fossils look like they're over 3 billion years old.

I can come up with a dozen hypotheses about how the universe came to be that would be compatible with the earth being 4 billion years old - including "God spoke the primordial universe into existence 13.7 billion years ago, then sat back & watched with excitement as His grand physics experiment played out". See? It's irrelevant to the theory of biological evolution.

1,227 posted on 08/18/2003 10:28:00 PM PDT by jennyp ("...and that's why rabbits have brown feet.")
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To: DittoJed2
"evolutionary package."


Awe, now we get to the crux of it.

You want to talk about cosmology, and we are talking specifically about evolution.

No wonder you are so confused.

Cosmology, or the evolution of the universe is an attempt to take the different theories and put them into a coherent whole. Problem is, that we don't know enough about certain things to make it possible yet.

The Big Bang has NO effect on the theory of evolution, Abiogenesis has NO effect on the theory of evolution, the theory of gravity has no effect on the theory of evolution.

You are trying to disprove Cosmology, and you will get no argument from me on that score, because there is NOT enough information yet to make a coherent theory.

Boy, and all this time I thought you were trying to disprove the theory of evolution.

Boy, that's a relief, maybe I can take you seriously, then again, maybe not.
1,228 posted on 08/18/2003 10:28:44 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Virginia-American; jennyp
I see we all jumped at that term.... "evolutionary package."


And basically stated the same thing.

Too funny!! LOL

Except you guys did it better.
1,229 posted on 08/18/2003 10:31:35 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; Aric2000
The next time you open a brand-new jar of jam, jelly, or peanut butter, let's find out how good of a scientist you are!

Do you carefully follow the evidence, or do you blindly accept the prevailing folklore? Are you a victim of the myths and legends of our time, or do you think critically for yourself?

Our entire culture - our science, our social structure, and our educational system - is based on the specious premise of biogenesis: that

matter + energy g new life (at least on rare occasions)

Let's conduct an experiment. Take a new (unopened) jar of jam, jelly, or even peanut butter - direct from the supermarket shelf - and examine it carefully.

Notice that it is an "open" thermodynamic system: energy can enter and leave the container as it is exposed to different temperatures. (In fact, the container is probably also optically transparent, but that is incidental to our purposes here.)

According to the dogmas of the current high priests of biology (and other venerated elders of our society), occasionally, if you combine matter and energy, it is possible to yield new life forms. The accepted theory is that even inorganic matter, subjected to totally random processes, originally combined itself into an initial life form, from which all subsequent life evolved.

Let's now open the sealed jar and carefully examine the contents inside. Did you find any "new life"?

Of course not! (And aren't you glad!) Our example even contains organic material, which contributes an unfavorable bias to our null hypothesis (a handicap, as it were), but even that, too, helps establish our basic point. To attempt to use inorganic materials in such a container further clinches our conclusion: did we really evolve from a rock and some water?

The equation implied by our current priesthoods of science is erroneous: the underlying equation is incomplete.

matter + energy -is not equal to- new life

matter + energy + information g new life

Unless there is introduced information, from an external source - a spore, or some other essential contaminant - no "new life" will ever be found. Ever.

Every day, for over a hundred years, we have continually conducted billions of experiments analogous to the one above and we never find any "new" life forms. Our entire food industry depends upon the fact that, unless an impurity is introduced, no "new life" is ever found. The Darwinists cannot explain the origin of life because they cannot explain the origin of the information necessary!

Link to complete article.

1,230 posted on 08/18/2003 10:32:52 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
It's just as well - best to call it a night before you get banned for the cardinal sin of not being an evolutionist. Just like whatshisname. Or not, since I'm pretty sure that's not quite what did him in ;)
1,231 posted on 08/18/2003 10:34:19 PM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: general_re


1,232 posted on 08/18/2003 10:40:31 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Aric2000
Thank you oh so very much for the kudos and encouragements! (blushing here...) Hugs!!!

If you would like an overview to the subject of brane theory, Brane New World is a good one!

1,233 posted on 08/18/2003 10:48:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: AndrewC
That reminds me - gotta get that one monogrammed. Make a nice keychain for me or something... :^)
1,234 posted on 08/18/2003 10:48:16 PM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: bondserv

Let's conduct an experiment. Take a new (unopened) jar of jam, jelly, or even peanut butter - direct from the supermarket shelf - and examine it carefully.

Notice that it is an "open" thermodynamic system: energy can enter and leave the container as it is exposed to different temperatures. (In fact, the container is probably also optically transparent, but that is incidental to our purposes here.)

According to the dogmas of the current high priests of biology (and other venerated elders of our society), occasionally, if you combine matter and energy, it is possible to yield new life forms. The accepted theory is that even inorganic matter, subjected to totally random processes, originally combined itself into an initial life form, from which all subsequent life evolved.

Let's now open the sealed jar and carefully examine the contents inside. Did you find any "new life"?

Of course not!

OK, let's conduct another experiment. Go out into the country and measure the height of the surrounding hills.

According to the dogmas of the current high priests of geology (and other venerated elders of our society), mountains were formed over millions of years as tectonic plates pushed together, forcing massive amounts of rock upwards, in some cases almost 30,000 feet high.

Let's wait a week. Now go out again. Have any of the hills you measured a week ago turned into mountains yet?

Of course not! Nobody's ever seen a hill turn into a mountain. (Well, almost nobody.) Ergo, the prevailing folklore is incorrect. QED.

1,235 posted on 08/18/2003 10:52:30 PM PDT by jennyp ("...and that's why rabbits have brown feet.")
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To: bondserv
Evolution does NOT seek to find out nor claim to seek to find out the ORIGINS of life.

Evolution starts where the first selfreplicating organism came into being, and NOT before.

Abiogenesis is what you are talking about, and scientists have done a number of excellent experiments which have created very basic amino acids, one of the bases of life on earth.

Scientists have also created other forms of very basic chemical compounds that could have led to life.

Abiogenesis is still in it's infancy, to say that it is impossible is ASSUMING a lot.

I believe that we will find the answer, and it will NOT be an answer that you are going to like.
1,236 posted on 08/18/2003 10:57:11 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: AndrewC
LOL, that picture gets me laughing every time!!
1,237 posted on 08/18/2003 10:58:45 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: jennyp
Of course not! Nobody's ever seen a hill turn into a mountain.


1,238 posted on 08/18/2003 11:12:53 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
LOL, leave it to you...
1,239 posted on 08/18/2003 11:21:40 PM PDT by jennyp ("...and that's why rabbits have brown feet.")
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To: jennyp
It is tough to experiment on the making of a mountain from hills.

Maybe if we could draw up all of the water from the inside of the earth to the surface, and see what billions of tons of water could do to our meringue pie, which is the crust of our earth.

Experimenting on injecting information into organic material is easier however.
1,240 posted on 08/18/2003 11:23:25 PM PDT by bondserv
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