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To: Tired of Taxes
No it's not. What you're unwilling to aknowledge is that we tried this without government intervention and the telemarketers drove their entire business through the loophole.

The answer to that question is YES, because, and I've told you this before THEY ARE STEALING OUT SERVICE. We have a right not to be stolen from.

no the list does NOT criminalize cold calling. That is a DAMED LIE. They can still do plenty of cold calling, just not to people on the list. They've only got 30 million people on the list, they're expecting it to double. There's 280 million people in this country, even if every single number represents 2 people that still leaves 160 million people they can call.

BWAHAHAHAHA that's the stupidest freaking statement on this thread. The telemarketers don't screen their lists at all. Most of them don't even bother to find out if the number exists, they just go through sequences starting with a prefix and cycling from 0001 to 9999. I think what's happened here is you did telesales at someplace that wasn't a telemarketing company and have ASSumed their methods were the methods of the industry. They aren't. If they pre-screened calls I wouldn't get the same damn call every single week for the last 6 months trying to sell me a new roof, after three months of not returning the call they would know I'm not interested, and if they'd bothered to do a number lookup they'd know I rent and can't make the decision even if I was interested.

Some businesses get hurt by laws, that's life. The question is, should the business be immune from the law because of the good it does. Stealing people's phone service to try to sell them stuff doesn't warrant this immunity. And again, it's an old issue. They've been under order to make these lists for YEARS, they just found loopholes to make their lists useless. And finally enough became enough and now they're going to be GIVEN the list.
272 posted on 08/13/2003 1:33:53 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: discostu
You can repeat over and over again that "they are stealing our service." That does not mean that they are stealing your service. Again, you paid a company for an open phone line. You didn't pay for a closed phone line restricted only to those people from whom you want to receive calls. Anyone can call you, as long as they're not threatening or harrasing you (for example).

True, not every single person is on the no-call list, but the numbers are growing by leaps and bounds.

I never said that every single telemarketing company "screens its calls" or that telemarketers themselves do. Telesales, telemarketing, it's all the same - there are simply different levels. This no-call list doesn't restrict only the annoying, obnoxious telemarketers from calling you; every company is restricted from making a "cold call" to someone on that list.

P.S. I already described what I did in "telephone sales" on a previous post to someone else. The company was a reputable company, but our sales dept. had to rely on telephone sales to reach the national market, and as salespeople we brought the business into the company. Without that cold calling, instead sitting there waiting for customers to call us - it's unthinkable. Our sales would've dropped dramatically, and half the employees would've been laid off.
274 posted on 08/13/2003 2:28:19 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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