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To: discostu
You can repeat over and over again that "they are stealing our service." That does not mean that they are stealing your service. Again, you paid a company for an open phone line. You didn't pay for a closed phone line restricted only to those people from whom you want to receive calls. Anyone can call you, as long as they're not threatening or harrasing you (for example).

True, not every single person is on the no-call list, but the numbers are growing by leaps and bounds.

I never said that every single telemarketing company "screens its calls" or that telemarketers themselves do. Telesales, telemarketing, it's all the same - there are simply different levels. This no-call list doesn't restrict only the annoying, obnoxious telemarketers from calling you; every company is restricted from making a "cold call" to someone on that list.

P.S. I already described what I did in "telephone sales" on a previous post to someone else. The company was a reputable company, but our sales dept. had to rely on telephone sales to reach the national market, and as salespeople we brought the business into the company. Without that cold calling, instead sitting there waiting for customers to call us - it's unthinkable. Our sales would've dropped dramatically, and half the employees would've been laid off.
274 posted on 08/13/2003 2:28:19 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
You can deny over and over that they are stealing service it won't change the simple fact that they are.

The projected number of people in this article is that not even half the country will be on the list. It's a big country, I think the telemarketers will be able to survive selling to the other half.

NO telesales and telemarketing ARE NOT the same thing. this is showing just exactly how ignorant of this you are. Telemarketing is specifically defined as a form of advertising using the phone, telesales is strictly the final sale. It's the difference between sales and marketing, there's overlap but they do have very distinct differences. All telemarketers are annoying. Anyone that would call you up on the phone, taking away your personal time, interrupting your personal life, to tell you about some product you've shown no previous interest in is, by definition, an annoying person. Also notice there are specific exemptions, if I check "yes you may contact me to inform me about new products" on any registration form that company is allowed to cold call me even if I'm on the list.

I read your description. And it's abundantly clear that you're short sited and have no comprehension of the sales cycles. Hundreds, THOUSANDS of travel agencies exist that don't cold call people. Why is it your company couldn't exists without it? The answer is they could have if they'd wanted to, but cold calling is cheap, that's why companies like it. It's also obnoxious as hell. It also won't magically go away because of the list, not even close, all that's going to happen is that most of those people you called who didn't buy, who hung up, who cursed at you, won't be on the list to call anymore. Whoopdee-freaking-do, they won't be able to call people they shouldn't have called in the first place, this will reduce costs and increase profitability.
275 posted on 08/13/2003 2:44:30 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: Tired of Taxes
You can repeat over and over again that "they are stealing our service." That does not mean that they are stealing your service.

The phone company certainly seems to be under the impression that it is my service, as evidenced by the fact that they send a bill for said service to me rather than to somebody else.

291 posted on 08/14/2003 8:34:55 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Tired of Taxes
Without that cold calling, instead sitting there waiting for customers to call us - it's unthinkable

That's too bad. Have you gone looking for a job with a company that produces a good or service that people actally want?

292 posted on 08/14/2003 8:37:07 AM PDT by steve-b
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