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To: Tired of Taxes
Well it took a while but we're seeing your true colors now. You're just an apologist for a bad industry and you're not going to let any facts get in your way.

Yes there most assuredly IS theft of service. The service offered to me by the phone company is a tool to get wanted phonecalls, there is a presumption that some unwanted phonecalls will also come but the idea is that they will not be the majority and if they fit a pattern of harassment I may press charges and have the government do something about it.

No caller ID is exactly the "closed line" you mentioned earlier. It was sold for its ability to block sales calls, then the telemarketers figured out how to spoof it and get around it. Of course telezappers are a No Soliciting sign, HELLO they take your number off their list WAKIE WAKIE, why would somebody want their number off the list? Oh yeah... BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE TELEPHONE SOLICITATION.

You're building strawmen constantly. You're denial is either a product of ignorance or a lie. I have no outrage at obnoxious telemarketers, I just want them to stop calling me and I don't want to have to spend 15 minutes per company to make them stop. Very simple. They wouldn't provide that even when instructed by the federal government to do so, so now that has been provided for them.

Then walk away. But understand there is no agreeing to disagree. You are wrong. PERIOD.
265 posted on 08/13/2003 10:48:15 AM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: discostu
Well it took a while but we're seeing your true colors now. You're just an apologist for a bad industry and you're not going to let any facts get in your way.

Oh, boy, at first I thought you might be good at debating, but I was wrong. You're so desperate now that you're calling me names (like "apologist"). Your posts are a waste of my time.

And, no, sweetie, Caller ID only displays the name or number of the person calling you. It is nothing more than a screening tool. It does not guarantee by contract that an unwanted person won't get through. And, legally, the telezapper is not a "no solicitors" sign. Some telephone sales companies don't even use computer-generated calling systems.

As I said, a "no solicitors" message - one delivered by the phone company - was the best idea I heard yet. Another idea would be to fine just those telemarketing companies who have overstepped the line by harrassing people.

But, creating a government "list" and then fining any company who calls any number on that list is stopping ALL telephone salespeople from making that first call. Again, it's anti-business, no matter how annoying you or I think telemarketers are.

266 posted on 08/13/2003 11:08:12 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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