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Telemarketers on the ropes
CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER ^ | 8/11/2003 | Lance Williams

Posted on 08/11/2003 8:33:31 PM PDT by xrp

Popular do-not-call list bringing industry to its knees

Aug. 11 — In the past three months, the hallways at Groesbeck-based Tel-A-Sell Marketing Inc. have become a lot less crowded. CEO Edd O’Connor has been forced to trim his telemarketing staff from 72 to 18.

“I WAS RUNNING a full house earlier this year,” said O’Connor, who also serves as president of the American Teleservices Association’s Great Lakes Chapter, which covers Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Michigan.

One of the big reason for the cuts: the chilling effects of the National Do Not Call Registry and other similar efforts in statehouses across the country.

A month into the sign-ups for the federal Do Not Call list, nearly 30 million phone numbers across the United States have been registered for the list. That number could double by the time the list takes effect on Oct. 1.

The ATA, which is challenging the list in court, said the national list could eventually cause more than 2 million lost telemarketing jobs. The ATA estimated that telemarketers are responsible for $660 billion in sales. The combined effects of do-not-call lists and the movement of jobs overseas have left the industry ailing.

“It’s going to cause significant business problems for this industry,” said O’Connor, who said he expects a pickup in business in early fall. “We’ve got to step back and regroup.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: calleridrules; donotcalllist; nannystatelovers; telemarketers; whiners
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To: TankerKC
So, apparently you're in favor of big government, using government to put Americans out of work and also paying unemployment benefits for these individuals.
101 posted on 08/12/2003 5:59:56 AM PDT by xrp
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To: Pablo64
I should not have to be the one who screens for them.

No...you big government lovers have screamed loud enough and your beloved government has come to your rescue.

102 posted on 08/12/2003 6:00:52 AM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
Wow, what an incredible lack of logic.

I do need to have a phone. If someone needs me right now, asap, the phone is needed. If I was a doctor I'd need it to save your life, if need be.

Do you mean to say that you'd be okay with a doctor who could have saved your life but didn't because he switched off his phone due to the number of teleloons calling?

I pay for my phone to make calls as well as receive them.

.37 seconds? Huh? you aren't counting the time taken for me to a. find the darn handset, b. run from whatever I'm doing, wherever I may be doing it and c. time to curse the teleloon on the other end. It would be about 3 + minutes at least. Not to mention the time wasted because the darn teleloon interrupted me.

Usign the phone isn't hard, suing the teleloons is and that's why I'm glad this no call list is out.
103 posted on 08/12/2003 6:03:43 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: xrp
You should hit the WoD threads with that, but legalization and commercialization of drugs would put the street dealers out of business.

Actually, I fear the War on Drugs more than I fear drugs and drug crime, which makes us more allies than adversaries.

Telemarketing, like the illicit drug industry, is just a damn nuisance that complicates the lives of those of us who have better things to do. Even from a libertarian perspective, telemarketing is a raw deal; telemarketers tie up your attention and your time, using up your resources to try to sell you things in your home. They're stepping all over my individual right to peace and privacy within my own home. Screw 'em.

104 posted on 08/12/2003 6:05:38 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: xrp
>> It is amazing how a simple annoyance in life exposes the fake conservatives for the big government lovers that they are.<<

A little dramatic, maybe?
105 posted on 08/12/2003 6:09:03 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
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To: xrp
huh? ok, so you get a couple of dozen salespersons trooping their way to your doorbell and ringing it and interrupting you every 10 to 20 minutes. You're okay with that? Then, you've got no work to do at all.
106 posted on 08/12/2003 6:09:36 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: xrp
Have you ever had one of those calls marketing Prozac?
107 posted on 08/12/2003 6:17:43 AM PDT by TankerKC (If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from?)
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To: SerpentDove
Overly dramatic, mayhaps. Teleloons and spam are like a manure salesman coming and dumping a ton of manure on your front carpet and then saying, "We know you want that, so why not pay us $9.99?" As oberon said, s**** them.
108 posted on 08/12/2003 6:17:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: Cronos
What are you crazy? I never answer my door when someone knocks or the doorbell rings.
109 posted on 08/12/2003 6:21:11 AM PDT by xrp
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To: TankerKC
No, have you?
110 posted on 08/12/2003 6:21:30 AM PDT by xrp
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To: Fledermaus
Two words for the whiners: Personal Responsibility.

Three words for those who'd have us cry for telemarketers: THEFT OF SERVICE.

111 posted on 08/12/2003 6:35:15 AM PDT by jimt
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To: KineticKitty
I pay for the monthly service, and I am busy 1/2 the time they interrupt me.

Which is why this law putting telescum "on the ropes" is entirely justified. They are STEALING your service, as well as interrupting your privacy, without ever getting off their rear ends.

112 posted on 08/12/2003 6:38:59 AM PDT by jimt
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To: xrp
So, apparently you're in favor of big government, using government to put Americans out of work and also paying unemployment benefits for these individuals.

One of the most legitimate functions of government is protecting the rights of individuals. I purchase phone service for my use and the use of those who I WANT to call. I do not purchase it so some lazy jackass in a distant office can use it to interrupt me and STEAL my time and phone service to pitch horsepuckey products.

Whine all you want. The telescum are THIEVES. Now that goobermint is finally approaching this problem from the victim's side, the THIEVES are complaining. Tough noogeys.

Spammers are next.

113 posted on 08/12/2003 6:52:49 AM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt
Please enlighten me as to how American legislation will affect spammers from the other 199 countries in the world.
114 posted on 08/12/2003 7:27:37 AM PDT by xrp
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To: All
Hearing that telemarketers are being put out of business is music to my worn-out left ear.

I once counted 23 telemarketing calls to my house in one rotten day. I was ready to throw the phone out the window. I SWEAR, they know if you're a stay-home mom and they promise to nag you to death.

Why should I pay already inflated prices for a telephone just to have a suckwad telemarketer call me during the dinner hour? They are a plague and a nuisance and I can't wait until they're all kaput. Every damn one of them.

115 posted on 08/12/2003 7:39:55 AM PDT by Kieri
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To: Kieri
Glad to see that you allow emotion to interfere with conservatism. Help! Call in big brother government to help!
116 posted on 08/12/2003 7:54:26 AM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
What are you crazy? I never answer my door when someone knocks or the doorbell rings. Hmmm.... pretty lonely existence, eh?
117 posted on 08/12/2003 7:54:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: Cronos
Hmmm.... pretty lonely existence, eh?

No, not at all. You?

118 posted on 08/12/2003 7:57:00 AM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
Well, it works this way -- if the cos using spam are based in the US, then they'll get a 11K fine. If not, then, we're on the way to world unity 'cause I can only see the chicoms and russis targetting the spammers with their nukes!
119 posted on 08/12/2003 7:58:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: xrp
That's an outrageous suggestion. I pay for phone service so that I get service, not so that someone else may use it as yet another route to try and sell things to me.

If a member of my family calls, even during dinner, then I want to answer it. If there's an emergency, the phone line can be a vital means of communication.

Since I pay for the service, I have a right to determine how it will be used. The telemarketing industry does not pay for it and therefore has no right of access to my telephone lines.

This has nothing to do with government, but rather the right of the individual not to be harassed on his own dime.
120 posted on 08/12/2003 8:00:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Are we conservatives, or are we Republicans?)
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