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To: jimt
Please enlighten me as to how American legislation will affect spammers from the other 199 countries in the world.
114 posted on 08/12/2003 7:27:37 AM PDT by xrp
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Hearing that telemarketers are being put out of business is music to my worn-out left ear.

I once counted 23 telemarketing calls to my house in one rotten day. I was ready to throw the phone out the window. I SWEAR, they know if you're a stay-home mom and they promise to nag you to death.

Why should I pay already inflated prices for a telephone just to have a suckwad telemarketer call me during the dinner hour? They are a plague and a nuisance and I can't wait until they're all kaput. Every damn one of them.

115 posted on 08/12/2003 7:39:55 AM PDT by Kieri
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To: xrp
Well, it works this way -- if the cos using spam are based in the US, then they'll get a 11K fine. If not, then, we're on the way to world unity 'cause I can only see the chicoms and russis targetting the spammers with their nukes!
119 posted on 08/12/2003 7:58:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: xrp
Please enlighten me as to how American legislation will affect spammers from the other 199 countries in the world.

International agreements should do the trick. We don't spam you, wasting your bandwidth, server space, etc., and you don't spam us. Spam is a curse destroying the 'net. When over half the traffic is for folks playing theft of service, the magnitude of the ripoff is immense.

Our small IT department has come up with a relay server running on Linux which filters all emails and puts "***SPAM***" in the subject line of junk email. Simple client rules dump those in a special folder for review. So far, it's hitting 90% with 0% false positives. After a month or so of review, it will simply "bounce" detected spam back, without manual intervention.

The thing is, we should not have to waste time, a server, and programming to avoid theft of service. Spammers belong in jail, just like other thieves.

126 posted on 08/12/2003 8:37:19 AM PDT by jimt
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To: xrp
Please enlighten me as to how American legislation will affect spammers from the other 199 countries in the world.

Go after the source! We need to establish that that the legal liability for spam is SHARED by the company that hires the spammer. The people sending the spam are rarely the same ones selling the viagra pills, penis enlargers, and porn sites...the actual spammers are usually third-party companies hired specifically to send the email. The spammers will start seeing REAL hits to their bottom lines when their customers start getting sued for THEIR actions! If YOUR company hires SpamSender Inc to send 15,000 spam messages to advertise YOUR product, YOU should be held liable for a fair amount of damages (say...$100 per email, we've got to make this HURT!)

And what about international sellers? You WOULDN'T have to sue them in foreign courts, you could sue them in U.S. courts and get a judgement here (the offense was committed here, so it's U.S. jurisdiction). After that, you can have all of their incoming products seized by Customs until they either pay up or go out of business!

Believe me, if these companies start suffering real financial damage, they'll stop hiring the spammers to hawk their products.
132 posted on 08/12/2003 9:26:21 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: xrp
Please enlighten me as to how American legislation will affect spammers from the other 199 countries in the world.

Civilized countries make international agreements to prevent cross-harassment. Barbarian countries don't have anything (not even the crap products offered by telepests) to sell.

162 posted on 08/12/2003 11:10:54 AM PDT by steve-b
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