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Mould Defends Gay Marriage (Husker Du singer Bashes President Bush)
Rolling Stone Magazine ^ | (August 7, 2003) | DENISE SHEPPARD

Posted on 08/08/2003 5:39:58 PM PDT by weegee

Mould Defends Gay Marriage

President's comments draw ire from former Husker frontman

President George W. Bush's recent press conference, during which he spoke against gay marriage, has prompted a host of rebuttals from many opposing voices, gay and straight alike. Singer-songwriter Bob Mould does not mince words when it comes to airing his feelings for Bush's declarations; the former Sugar and Husker Du frontman was incensed by the President's comments. "Who is he to decide what is right for civilization?" Mould asks. "Who is he to tell the world how we should perceive two people wanting equal protection under the already existing system?"

Bush's comments -- "I believe a marriage is between a man and a woman," he said. "And I think we ought to codify that one way or the other. And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that." -- fell just weeks before the Massachusetts' Supreme Court is expected to announce a ruling on gay marriages.

Mould, himself an out, gay man, is concerned that the President continues to correlate gay partnerships with a church ceremony, a move Mould sees as a manipulative way to keep the political right against gay unions. "To me, when people say gay marriage, bells and whistles go off," he says. "The fact that the right is making a gigantic moral issue of it should outrage most Americans. If you take the religious argument out of the picture, you eliminate a lot of rhetoric that the right base their arguments on."

Spearhead frontman Michael Franti is himself a married, straight political activist and admits to being very frustrated by the dichotomy between gay acceptance in public and the slowness of change in the political arena. "I am absolutely comfortable with calling this a human rights issue," he says. "Like I say in my song 'Oh My God' I don't give a fuck who they're screwing in private, I wanna know who they're screwing in public. To me it is so irrelevant at this point. I believe firmly that our children are gonna look back on this time the same way that we look upon witch burning today."

Kaia Wilson, founding member and frontwoman of punk band the Butchies has been out for fourteen years, and admits that all the recent attention to the battle for gay, lesbian, bi and transgendered rights have evoked emotions that run the gamut from impatience to hope to anger. "For me, when the sodomy law got overturned [in June 2003], I got more pissed off by being reminded that it was there in the first place," she says. "When it got overturned, I was like fuck you! Thanks a lot for taking that goddamn archaic law off the books. Now can you maybe give us our basic human rights?"

Wilson is also concerned about the long-term ramifications of the President's moral beliefs. "What really sucks is how all his words -- with his access to the media -- are going to trickle down and affect law, affect homophobia," she says. "When I first came out, one in three teen suicides was gay-related. Fourteen years later, that figure hasn't changed." Wilson charges that comments like Bush's simply reinforce that "queers are denied basic rights. We are constantly having to fight being second-class citizens. The messages that I get [from Bush's statements] are you're a pervert and your relationship with your partner is not important."

Mould reinforces the points of his fellow musicians by making it clear that, in his opinion, he is simply looking for basic equal rights under the law. "I'm talking about a civil union where people are making life commitments and they want to jointly own property and raise children and retire and be buried side by side," he says. "What is the problem with extending the basic rights that everyone else has inherently? If most Americans saw it in those terms they would not feel threatened, they would not feel that their religious morale had been compromised."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activistactors; bushbashing; culturewar; hasbeen; homosexual; homosexualmarriage; libertines; music; nuclearfamily; queer; samesexmarriage
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"Who is he to decide what is right for civilization?" Mould asks. "Who is he to tell the world how we should perceive two people wanting equal protection under the already existing system?"

Um, he would be the man elected President. The man who heads the Executive Branch of our constitutional form of government. It is his job to speak out on policy decisions. If the Congress is to pass a law, the President signs it or vetos it.

The issue is a desperate cry from a miniscule group of self-absorbed people. How does "same sex union" help America? Is there anything about a "same sex union" that cannot be handled with other contracts the couple could get a lawyer to draw up (regarding the division of property after the marriage disolves)?

Is it about recognition of the "marriage"? Recognized by whom? Employer? Many already give same sex couple who live together "spouse" benefits. Church? Neighbors? Taxman? Adoption agencies?

1 posted on 08/08/2003 5:39:59 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Who?
2 posted on 08/08/2003 5:45:04 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: weegee
What is it with these libs? W was asked a question. He expressed his OPINION. He didn't pass a law for cripes sake!
3 posted on 08/08/2003 5:46:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: weegee
Who in the hell is this Mold fellow?
4 posted on 08/08/2003 5:49:04 PM PDT by cwb
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To: weegee
Oh, on behalf of civilization, the question should be asked,

"What if everyone was gay?"

The world's civilizations would all end in one generation.

Must be a good thing.
5 posted on 08/08/2003 5:49:31 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Germanicus has been banned from FR.)
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To: Cobra64
Conservatives aren't allowed to have opinions. Hollywood has established that.
6 posted on 08/08/2003 5:51:18 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Exactly,

Husker Du was never in the mainstream at all ever. I will grant them a shot of their poster in Clays room inthe Movie "Less Than Zero".........
7 posted on 08/08/2003 5:54:00 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Spinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......)
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To: weegee
...two people wanting equal protection under the already existing system?"

Because, as someone else wiser than I pointed out already, "Marriage is not for the protection of those being married".

8 posted on 08/08/2003 5:58:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: cmsgop
I've never heard of anyone mentioned in the article/screed, except President Bush.
9 posted on 08/08/2003 5:58:33 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: weegee
When God announces Appendia A to the Bible, then I'nn consider Mr Mould's opinion as being valid. Until then, marriage is, and must remain valid only when between a NATURAL BORN man and a natural born woman...
10 posted on 08/08/2003 5:58:34 PM PDT by m&maz
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To: weegee
Man, it's hard to read crap like this. Husker Du is probably my all-time favorite band. This is why I stopped reading anything about the musicians I like, most of them are completely f'ed up people.
11 posted on 08/08/2003 6:08:44 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: weegee
"If you take the religious argument out of the picture, you eliminate a lot of rhetoric that the right base their arguments on."

So, if God arises and does to America what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah, does Mr. Mould think that he will be priveleged to just sit and observe from the safety of the sidelines?

God has a definite way of dealing with homosexuality and it ain't pretty. I, for one don't want our country to tempt Him in the matter.

12 posted on 08/08/2003 6:35:13 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: weegee
Am not interested in reading the opinions of those who are in active rebellion against God (like that gay bishop and his supporters).

God is not mocked.

13 posted on 08/08/2003 6:36:57 PM PDT by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.)
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To: nightdriver; DittoJed2; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777
Precisely.
14 posted on 08/08/2003 6:37:40 PM PDT by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.)
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To: Paul Atreides
Their vocabulary indicates that they may be posters at DirtyUnderwear...
15 posted on 08/08/2003 7:07:20 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
LOL! DU.com: A festering pool of psychotic mediocrity. I wonder how they are coming along on their Wellstone investigation.
16 posted on 08/08/2003 7:44:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: cmsgop
Is Husker Du still around? And they get Rolling Stone mention? Wow.
17 posted on 08/08/2003 7:44:52 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: weegee
Errr yeah?! Who cares?!
18 posted on 08/08/2003 7:45:26 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: conservative cat
All one has to do is criticize President Bush these days. Even the most pathetic moth-eaten, cobweb-covered has-beens can add one more minute to their used up fifteen by criticizing W.
19 posted on 08/08/2003 7:49:17 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: conservative cat
Bashing this President goes over well with the editor in chief at RS.
20 posted on 08/08/2003 7:49:50 PM PDT by weegee
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