ArnoldGovernor.net (correct thread)

ArnoldGovernor.net (elephantparty.com - temporary) ^ | 8/6/2003 | Jagrmeister

[jagrmeister]

CALLING ALL Arnold Schwarzenegger Supporters:

I am announcing the creation of ArnoldGovernor.net . I have reserved the domain, but the site is up right now at a temporary URL which can be seen here (www.elephantparty.com). I am a Californian and a conservative - and I can say with certainty that Arnold represents the best chance we have of claiming California's governorship. I am posting this site for your review.

First, the others in the race. Bill Simon and Tom McClintock are both fine men, but they have lost important statewide races in the past. Simon lost a race against Davis last year which should have been a cakewalk given Davis' record. Most political analysts agree that Simon ran one of the worst campaigns in recent memory. McClintock is a virtual unknown statewide (let's not get fooled by our own echo chamber). The KEY to remember is that we have

Only 2 months (8 weeks) until Election Day. There is NO time to run someone who Californians have rejected in the past or a virtual unknown. For those who have leaned towards either of them, I'm appealing to your sense of reason to get behind someone with the best shot of winning. Now, why should we elect Arnold?

Arnold is a fiscal conservative but moderate otherwise. His stance on abortion will matter less than you might think- that's a matter for Supreme Court justices which the California governor has no say about. He is pro-business, pro-entrepreneurship, and tough on crime (witness his Proposition 49 which aims to reduce juvenille crime - a major, largely unaddressed component of crime). He is an "American by choice" and is very patriotic. People look at him and think "It's okay to be a Republican". With Schwarzenegger pulling a Total Recall on Grey Davis, Bush may actually find that California is friendly territory in 2004.

I am looking for pro-Arnold supporters to help:

1. Pitching Arnold's candidacy

2. Graphics design- create compelling visuals that are pro-Arnold or anti-Davis

3. Anyone else that wants to be pinged for pro-Arnold events.

4. Coming up with good one liners, spin, updates, opposition research, etc.

Let's team up! Thanks!!

Once I get your suggestions, I will update the site and in a few days, it will be at ArnoldGovernor.net . Thanks all Freepers for your help.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"I just hope that's an opus. Does this mean you're done ranting about this?"

I'm just getting warmed up, baby.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"And, I believe, Ah-nold has a too-muh!"

That would explain a lot. Socialism is definitely a mental illness.

[EternalVigilance]

Keep up the good work. You're right on the money.

I wish a few more 'conservatives' around here would have the guts to speak up and stand up as you are.

[Long Cut]

Glad I'm deploying, then. At least I won't have to see your histrionics for six months.

[swheats]

Do we know all the skeleton's yet in McClintock's closet? Surely being human he has some.

Are you a California voter and have fund memories of Tennessee or you're just like most of us an interested onlooker?

One gripe I have against my fellow Republicans is the fact that we have a problem with incrementalism. (that's a huge shock going from ultra liberal to loyal conservative in one bite) We know it's the right thing, but does the majority of voters who managed to vote for Davis believe this? The democrats have mastered that ability. They don't go for the whole enchilada, they set their goal and piecemeal it until they have what they've gone after--whether good or bad.

You might just be right in thinking that a staunch conservative Republican could win now, but if not, we will have gambled and lost again. I'm of the mind that if Arnold has a snow ball chance of winning, why not take the best and viable candidates and place them in his administration. Working together to accomplish the goal for California. You do have to deal with the issue that Bill Simon was not able to gain the majority when he had the chance and McClintock is probably the best candidate but very little known, from all that I've heard.

Don't knock everybody that has smoked dope in their early years(no I'm not advocating legalizing marijuana). Some tried cigarettes, others tried alcohol or stronger drugs, many of us tried reefer. Despite your moral standards many of us made it through those years without losing our minds. And have become fine, upstanding citizens.

[swheats]

Godspeed and thank you for your sacrifice and service.

[discostu]

I'm not panicked, I'm not pro-Arnold and I haven't mentioned anything about his political views. My position is very simple: he's got the best chance of winning this and if you reduce the list down to just him and the "real conservatives" he's the only one with the slightest chance of winning. It's not selling the soul, it's telling the TRUTH, it's Arnold or somebody with a D after their name.

[harpo11]

Yes, please put me on your ping list...Arnold's back and so is California's golden future.

[discostu]

McClintock wasn't the media focus before, McClintock never will be the media focus. He's a state senator who'd lost on the full statewide stage. He's has not a single chance in hell in this kind of race. He might be good in a normal race, but in a 61 day multiple hundred contestant race he can't seperate himself from the field.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I didn't notice that he lived in Tennessee. Good catch.

[swheats]

;)

[John Lenin]

McClintock is a good man but he is going to lose Bigtime. Face it pal, you are betting on the wrong horse in this race. Landslide Arnie !

[luckystarmom]

You're younger than the 40-60 year old crowd. I'm 41, and the war on drugs was just being started. I never did drugs, but most of the people my age (and in their 20's or younger in the 60's) have at least tried pot. Most of them experimented, and that's it. They grew up and got over it.

It's like President Bush. I really don't care that he drank too much alcohol. He grew up, and stopped drinking. That's what I care about.

You don't live in California, so you are not personally worried about your or your spouse's job. You don't have kids in the public school out here. My husband thinks he's going to lose his job by the end of the year. My kids' school has lost it's science program and several very good teachers due to budget cuts.

We need to get someone in fast who can fix up this mess. Unfortunately, it will not be McClintock. He's a loser in a much easier election. He wasn't running for governor before, and he lost. He is not electable at this time. It doesn't mean that I dislike the guy. Heck, I wish a more conservative candidate was electable, but that isn't the case.

However, we cannot go on any longer in this state the way things are. Gray Davis has to go.

[strela]

However, we cannot go on any longer in this state the way things are. Gray Davis has to go.

True. And, Tom McClintock simply cannot garner the votes necessary to do it.

[Impy]

I saw that too. It should give serious doubts to any Arnold supporter.

[Theodore R.]

DJ, you just took the words out of my mouth!

For many, politics is mostly a team sport. Our "R's" versus their "D's," that's all that counts.

I also think that personality means everything to the gullible voters of CA. I think they will vote for Schwartznegger even if they cannot spell his name or know where he stands.

I cannot imagine a bloc of conservatives, IF united, being able to come out on top. But if the conservatives had been united form the start, they might have been able to win with 30 percent.

[Dan from Michigan]

Here's the situation.

1. There's a short campaign season. That means the best organized campaign will LIKELY win.
2. That also means that ANYONE can win. 25% could be enough here. We had a 6-way primary for a state rep race. The winner was an UNKNOWN to the media. He won by 2 votes.

3. I don't consider Ahnold a RINO by California standards. He's a Nixon/Pete Wilson Republican. Riordan was a RINO. Bloomberg is a RINO. Ahnold is anti-Communist, and that's why he was a Republican. He isn't the best one running though.

4. That said, this is McClintock's shot. He could win this with 25%. If McClintock gets the GOP core base out, it may be enough to win.

5. As for Bill Simon, he had his chance and lost.

[Nayt2]

i don't think simon running is going to hurt arnold, it seems to me like he'd just take votes from mcclintock.

personally, i think its very petty for either of them to run. just get out of the way and let arnold win.

of course, the left wing vote is going to be split as well, between huffington, bustamante, and camejo. so hopefully arnold won't be screwed by the purists.

you'd rather have a outright socialist like bustamante than a fiscal conservative like arnold who recently said he only believes in welfare for people in wheelchairs?

[fieldmarshaldj]

Thank you. :-)

Yes, I wish many more would speak out, too. I've counted only about 6 others maybe who are remotely vocal. I'd like to think the "silent majority" on FR gets it, but I just wish they'd let us know for sure. :-|

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Glad I'm deploying, then. At least I won't have to see your histrionics for six months."

I'm gonna miss you, too, ole buddy. I gotta put you on my Christmas Card list. ;-)