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Homosexuality serves no useful purpose
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Posted on 08/06/2003 6:14:18 PM PDT by chance33_98

Homosexuality serves no useful purpose

Gilbert Williams’ outrageous lies about homosexuality among dumb animals is simply shameful. Homosexuality comprises a barren act that serves no useful purpose in nature, therefore no collection of living creatures whether man or animal, can sustain themselves from generation to generation exclusively through this practice – it brings death. Furthermore, since when do we look to animals for guidance on sexual morality: animals routinely practice incestuous relationships, polygamy and spousal abuse. Does Gilbert Williams, suggest we do the same?

Additionally, if homosexual acts were also practiced among animals, then such acts would be readily observed by all and sundry and there is no need to learn of such accounts in books.

Besides, if homosexual unions were historically so acceptable, natural and as commonplace as Mr. Williams claims then, how and why did it come to pass that homosexuality is universally outlawed, until recently, in all countries and condemned by all major religions?

Now consider this Ken Scott: a 1978 American study found that 43 per cent of male homosexuals estimated they had sex with more than 500 partners and 28 per cent had more than 1 000 partners (clearly a neurosis); the incidence of sexually transmitted disease (including hepatitis) was seven times higher among homosexuals and in some categories it was as high as 20 times; the life expectancy from all causes of homosexual males was 43, and with the advent of AIDS, it is now 39. A BBC report of June 26, 2003 mentioned that the incidence of AIDS among homosexuals was ten times higher than that in the general population; and 52 per cent of the AIDS cases in the US are among homosexuals. In summary, homosexuality is unhealthy and condemns our young men to an early grave. Given these glaring statistics, opposing the homosexual cause is neither stupid nor ignorant.

The laws of Barbados permit marriage between one man and one woman, which is as much a prescription against homosexuality as it is against bigamy. It applies equally to every man and woman. There is no discrimination; it protects every one equally. The law must not be changed because you do not feel good obeying it.

The book “Religious Apartheid” quoted statistics which revealed that 75 per cent of all paedophiles in the US are homosexual. Mr. Scott’s assertion that most homosexuals abhor child abuse rings hollow since I am yet to hear organisations such as Lambada, GLAD or ACT-up publicly denounce NAMBLA for its public policy of molesting little eight-year-old boys. What you do not say also condemns you.

Homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt children; the trauma and shame visited on children raised by two “mummies” or two “daddies” should not be a burden society imposes on children. Children are not pet puppies who need only to be fed and housed; they also need moral and spiritual guidance. Children should not be recruited into a social experiment to further the political agenda of militant homosexuals. If homosexuals truly wished to have and to care for children they would forgo their homosexual lifestyles and enter stable heterosexual relationships since American surveys indicate that less than one per cent of homosexuals are exclusively homosexual, which means that they can and do perform sexually with someone of the opposite sex.

We do not need the psuedo-science of sociologists, psychiatrists or psychologists to tell us that homosexuality is wrong; they masquerade ideology as science. The “Bible” condemns homosexuality in the strongest terms and that is enough for us.

Ken Scott, God did not make you a homosexual. Your homosexuality is the result of a deprivation neurosis and in trying to deal with that neurosis you have developed an inordinate sexual attachment or attraction to other men just as other people in dealing with a neurosis they develop an inordinate attachment to people, objects or substances. For the homosexual is insecure in his gender identity and in his confusion he attempts to attach himself to someone of the same sex in an effort to attain an identity. It is a disordered love. However, you have chosen to believe the lies of psychologists.

People are not born with a disposition that is impossible to change – even dumb animals are trained to conduct themselves in ways that run counter to their natures. If homosexuality is accepted because of sexual orientation, then there is no sensible reason to reject paedophilia or bestiality since these too can be regarded as sexual orientation.

Ken Scott, thank you for not coming to Barbados and please discourage others of your homosexual persuasion not to visit. Rejecting immorality is discrimination.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: analcanalsex; antifamily; culturewar; dontbendover; downourthroats; hedonists; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; ifitfeelsgooddoit; libertines; prepedophilia; prisoners; pseudoscience; queer
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
search me..............on second thought............
101 posted on 08/07/2003 6:22:52 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"Masturbation, possibly, can help prevent prostate cancer."

Y'all trying to tell me thats the only reason it's useful?

Dang. Lots of good folk see the use in masturbating even if they've never heard about prostate cancer.
102 posted on 08/07/2003 6:24:18 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Dataman
There are two unfounded assumptions in your post:

1)That the behavior is genetic, not learned and

Behavior is learned; predisposition toward certain behaviors may be genetic. That's established scientific fact. (Do you think it's 'learned behavior' that Native Americans or the Irish have an alcohol problem? Nope. Genetics, having to do with gastric enzymes or their absence.)

2)That evolution actually happened.>>

Go find a copy of a Jack T Chick tract and smoke it. Evolution is objective fact, as real as gravity and air. If you want to live in an imaginary universe where God took 168 measured hours to manufacture Planet Earth 6000 years ago and He drowned the dinosaurs in the Flood, go ahead, but don't expect it to be true.

If your unfounded assumptions were true, one would expect to see a similar pattern in the animal --especially primate-- world. There is no parallel.>>

Well, we don't see chimpanzees smoking crack or gorillas committing serial murder, either.

103 posted on 08/07/2003 6:25:04 PM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: chance33_98
Homosexuality serves no useful purpose

Unless you're a Democrat and then it represents votes.

104 posted on 08/07/2003 6:29:40 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RaceBannon
bump
105 posted on 08/07/2003 6:40:05 PM PDT by apackof2
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To: fso301
The Republican party should be ashamed that's so. Lots of gays like the idea of smaller, smarter government, competitive markets, second amendment rights and intensely dislike government corruption. But I guess the Republican party is too good for those folks.

BTW: Did you see the latest Fox News poll that reported only 36% of the electorate think GW deserves reelection, while 42% don't?
106 posted on 08/07/2003 6:41:28 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: lizma
If this virus effects a certain amount of our population, will we start to see it be a major problem in the hetero population as it is in Africa? I can't understand people who say it's a homosexual or IV abuser disease when in Africa its truly not.

Recently on FR there were several threads about AIDS in Africa, and it turns out that AIDS is wide spread among heterosexuals in Africa (and not in the US) for two main reasons, the most important one is that anal sodomy is very common, and that is a perfect way to spread not only AIDS but many other diseases as well. Another reason is that people - especially men - are often very promiscuous, and that is another great way to spread it. So if heterosexuals are not promiscuous and do not practice anal sodomy, there is no reason to for them to get AIDS.

107 posted on 08/08/2003 12:15:36 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Lucky Dog
Homosexuality serves no useful purpose

Neither does celibacy. Next.

Celibacy does not result in premature death to its practioners. Counter?

Voluntary celibacy has tradionally been practiced thorughout history for religious or spiritual purposes, to focus the mind on transcendence, to limit earthly entanglements and maximize the service spirit, and to engender a kind of equal respect for all, a kind of non-exploitive mentality. There are monks, nuns, hermits and renunciates in most traditions of differing spiritual and religious paths, and celibate marriages. People who are atheists will not see the value of this, but others may.

108 posted on 08/08/2003 12:22:04 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: ingeborg
Now, I can't speak for God and what God intended. It would best to let Him sort these things out if they are ultimately bad.

You don't need to speak for Him, His words are crystal clear in condemning not only same sex sodomy, but other kinds of sexual immorality as well. Not only in the Bible but Vedic (Hindu) scriptures, Jewish scripture, and even Budddhist moral teachings.

Gay people are an expression of our evolution and civlization--based on sociobiological interpretation.

That is the opinion of some moral relativist humans beings - and humans are subject to these four defects:

1. Cheating or lying tendency.

2. Tendency to commit mistakes.

3. Tendency to believe what is not.

4. Imperfect senses (inlcuding mind).

So there you have it.

109 posted on 08/08/2003 12:27:40 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: lizma
But I think it wasn't until the 1500's that celibacy became established in the Catholic church and at that point it was more a political decision (inheritance laws I think came into play (?)

Can you cite some historical sources? What about the desert Fathers (and some desert Mothers)? They were celibate hermits, and in the 3rd century and maybe even 2nd.

110 posted on 08/08/2003 12:31:15 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: donmeaker
If you spend some time at the zoo, you will see our nearest relatives (either by evolution or by Creation) the Chimpanzee. There is no kind of sex act that Chimps will not try, and no combination that they will not present.

One reason we are human is that we repress easy gratification, and have to work for it. Still, our more natural cousins enjoy cheap and easy sex, while the state of repression is unnatural.

Since you admire the monkey behavior so much, you will likely be one in your next life - and get to "enjoy" the chimpanzee life that so attracts you.

111 posted on 08/08/2003 12:34:58 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: chance33_98
Homosexuality does serve a excellent purpose.

It serves as catalyst for exposing bigots and other small minded people. If these people did not have homsexuality to expose their demons, we might not know which of our neighbors and associates were dangerous.

112 posted on 08/08/2003 12:37:25 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: dirtboy
They're usually overweening busybodies who want to pry their way into every aspect of your life, with the government as their crowbar.

Actually those words aptly describe the homo-nazis and their lawyers who are very very busy "rammin and crammin" their sick agenda down our throats via legislated laws and the courts. Conservatives are merely trying to protect ourselves from their crowbars.

113 posted on 08/08/2003 12:42:14 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: dirtboy
They're usually overweening busybodies who want to pry their way into every aspect of your life, with the government as their crowbar.

Actually those words aptly describe the homo-nazis and their lawyers who are very very busy "rammin and crammin" their sick agenda down our throats via legislated laws and the courts. Conservatives are merely trying to protect ourselves from their crowbars.

114 posted on 08/08/2003 12:43:09 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: RaceBannon
Thanks for a great post.
115 posted on 08/08/2003 12:43:17 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: dirtboy
They're usually overweening busybodies who want to pry their way into every aspect of your life, with the government as their crowbar.

Actually those words aptly describe the homo-nazis and their lawyers who are very very busy "rammin and crammin" their sick agenda down our throats via legislated laws and the courts. Conservatives are merely trying to protect ourselves from their crowbars.

116 posted on 08/08/2003 12:43:17 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Does masturbation have no useful purpose? I'm really curious how y'all feel about masturbation.

Since you keep bringing up this topic, I'll set you straight. According to Ayurveda (ancient - and currently practiced - medical sciece of India, source of Unani (Arabic) and Greek medicine) states that practice of masturbation leads to mental imbalance and if practiced excessively, to psychosis. I'd say you're the poster boy.

117 posted on 08/08/2003 12:53:29 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
LOL
118 posted on 08/08/2003 1:01:32 AM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: TigersEye
So you are saying that sucking c#ck makes a man more artistic and more spiritual? Do you have any objective evidence of that?>>

You have it precisely backwards. Those who are more spiritual or artistic may have a much stronger temptation to have sex with other men than do those who lack such gifts. Cf. the following article:

http://eutopia.cua.edu/article.cfm?ID=38
James C. Kruggel, The Unwelcome Prophet:
A Theory of (Many Cases of) Homosexuality, And an Evangelical Message of Chastity and Hope for All
119 posted on 08/08/2003 3:19:35 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: Jeff Gordon
It serves as catalyst for exposing bigots and other small minded people. If these people did not have homsexuality to expose their demons, we might not know which of our neighbors and associates were dangerous.>>

Remember that quote when your pregnant daughter is abandoned by her soon-to-be-ex-husband for another woman, and she (your daughter) is unable to collect child support since adultery is a "private activity" under Lawrence, protected by the "umbras and penumbras" of the Constitution. THAT is where queer marriage is leading: complete disestablishment of state support for marriage.
120 posted on 08/08/2003 3:22:49 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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