1 posted on
07/30/2003 8:19:48 PM PDT by
DPB101
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To: DPB101
I actually thought it was the religious leaders who condemn jesus to death thru the crowds and the romans who up held jewish law.
I don't know I maybe wrong won't be the first time, but if that is not the case I will stand corrected quite quickly.
2 posted on
07/30/2003 8:21:55 PM PDT by
dts32041
(So how do you like taxation with representation?)
To: DPB101
Lewis Regenstein is author of "Replenish the Earth: The Teachings of the World's Religions on Protecting Animals and Nature" and president of the Interfaith Council for the Protection of Animals and Nature.
To: DPB101
This guy has nothing to worry about. The ADL and the ad hoc Catholic bishop's group disliked the movie because it too closely followed the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They much prefer a watered-down, modern interpretation.
To: DPB101
The hostilities towards this movie only increases the desire of people to see it. I remember when the "Last Temptation Of Christ" came out and all the uproar added to the hype and the box office boost.
Israel is in need of support from the American Jewish community and this is what the people at Jewsweek are spending their time doing?
I will reserve my opinion of Mel Gibson until I've seen the movie. If he's wrong, then I'll say so. If he's not, I wonder if Jewsweek would say so.
5 posted on
07/30/2003 8:25:57 PM PDT by
MoJo2001
To: DPB101
This guy needs a reading comprehension course.
6 posted on
07/30/2003 8:27:14 PM PDT by
Varda
To: DPB101
Yes - didn't Pilate declare that there was no cause to bring charges against Jesus? And the crowds, most likely spurred on by the chief priests and teachers of the law, shouted ,"Crucify! Crucify!".
To: DPB101
Indeed, the New Testament account of these events could be used to discredit Gibson's movie, which he claims is based on the truthful version of events as set forth in the Christian bible. Since Lewis Regenstein has no qualms about referencing the New Testament, if really wants to get a grip on reality he should ponder the meaning of the term "the stone which the builders rejected." And then meditate on the parable of the master who sent his servant out to gather travelers and beggars from the countryside for a feast, after all the master's friends turned down his invitation.
To: DPB101
Jewsweek,New Testament?
I'm so confused.
10 posted on
07/30/2003 8:32:13 PM PDT by
mdittmar
To: DPB101
'Twas I Lord Jesus I Crucified thee.
My Sin!
Our Sin!
To: DPB101
It was the Jews who insisted the Romans try Jesus, as they had not the legal power to condemn him to death.
Neither Pilate nor Agrippa wanted the case. The Jewish crowd would not accept Barrabas as an alternative...they insisted that Jesus be the one crucified.
To: DPB101
Read further. It gets good.
To: DPB101
It seems to me the responsibility for Jesus's cruxificition is shared between the Roman and Jewish leaders of the time in Israel. Exactly, how much of the blame each deserves is really beyond what we know from the accounts written, and really a moot point.
The fact that some Jews...and some Romans...killed Christ does not tarnish either group today in anyway, and no one, Gibson or otherwise, is trying to make this out to be the case.
From the multitude of angry liberals arguing against the point, you'd think they'd have bothered to see if anyone was actually making the argument in the first place...but then that would get in their way of smearing what sounds to be a truly moving religious film.
To: DPB101
I wonder if the author of that article actually viewed the movie in question.
26 posted on
07/30/2003 8:44:02 PM PDT by
buffman
To: DPB101
Strange that so much fuss is being made about this movie - in Andrew Lloyd Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar the same message was given - that it was the Jewish leaders who wanted Christ dead - recall the scene from the motion picture with all the leaders dressed in black on the scaffolding, singing en masse "This Jesus must, Jesus must, Jesus must die" - I don't remember any objections at all to either the Broadway presentation or the movie......
To: DPB101
I thought there was plenty of blame to go around for Jesus' crucifixion. After all, at the end, didn't even the disciples deny any connection with him.
To: DPB101
This must be a terrific movie. All the right people hate it.
To: DPB101
There was a tape in the white house when Nixon was president and we're still trying to figure out who said what. Those who know what really happened in the conversations between Pilate and the others and who was responsible for what amaze me.
This is not a faith issue. It is a history issue and you'll probably never know. So the comments about Gidson are unprovable and arrogant.
When there's some provable history, we'll all take the lesson.
36 posted on
07/30/2003 8:53:35 PM PDT by
breakem
To: DPB101
It may be just me, but it seems obvious that this guy hasn't even seen the movie.
From what I have heard it doesn't blame anyone. How can it? It's basically to our ears a silent movie.
I grew up a strict Chicago Catholic and it wasn't until I moved to a Jewish neighboor in Maryland at the age of 40 did I first hear that the Jews killed Christ. The nuns never taught us that. It was never even hinted at this.
It was God's plan for Christ to give up his life for us as he did. So be it.
This "Poor us. We are being accused of killing Christ" is just other liberal victimhood whine and by the fact that their critism is so strong, I'd bet it is one heck of a movie.
39 posted on
07/30/2003 8:57:19 PM PDT by
lizma
To: DPB101
I did not realize Herod was a Roman, stupid of me!
40 posted on
07/30/2003 8:59:17 PM PDT by
cpdiii
(RPH, Oil field Trash and proud of it)
To: DPB101
The Romans drove the nails into Him; but it was the Jews who called for His execution.
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