To: DPB101
It seems to me the responsibility for Jesus's cruxificition is shared between the Roman and Jewish leaders of the time in Israel. Exactly, how much of the blame each deserves is really beyond what we know from the accounts written, and really a moot point.
The fact that some Jews...and some Romans...killed Christ does not tarnish either group today in anyway, and no one, Gibson or otherwise, is trying to make this out to be the case.
From the multitude of angry liberals arguing against the point, you'd think they'd have bothered to see if anyone was actually making the argument in the first place...but then that would get in their way of smearing what sounds to be a truly moving religious film.
To: swilhelm73
The difference between the Jews and the Romans was that the Romans were not the Chosen People who were blessed with a Covenant with God for 4,000 years. I have always assumed that this is why Israel paid a terrible price for the rejection of Christ when Jerusalem was sacked by the Romans in 70 AD.
It is not a coincidence that the first "convert" after the crucifixion of Christ was the Roman centurion who stood guard at the foot of the cross.
To: swilhelm73
The fact that some Jews...and some Romans...killed Christ does not tarnish either group today in anyway, and no one, Gibson or otherwise, is trying to make this out to be the case. Good point....are the Italians bashing this movie too?
73 posted on
07/30/2003 9:50:05 PM PDT by
wardaddy
(True happiness is nuts after the flop.)
To: swilhelm73
Jesus confounded and challenged many people -- it is not surprising that even people who were enemies agreed that Jesus had to be silenced. This sordid behavior is not unique to Romans or Jews -- it is human nature. If Jesus had appeared to different cultures or at different times, people would have reacted the same. Anyone who brings any light into the world is bound to be hated. This was true thousands of years ago, and you can have absolute confidence that this will be true tomorrow. The crowd always prefers Barabbas.
I can understand a Jew overreacting to anything that could give credence to the "blood libel" myth. Only stupid people believe the "blood libel" myth. Unfortunately, the world is full of stupid people who from time to time violently inflict their stupidity on others. There are those who hate because that is all they are capable of doing, and they will cling to any rationalization, however empty it is. It is ironic that the same anti-Semites who believe the blood libel are the same people who would kill Jesus, if they could.
74 posted on
07/30/2003 9:51:01 PM PDT by
Wilhelm Tell
(Lurking since 1997!)
To: swilhelm73
It seems to me the responsibility for Jesus's cruxificition is shared between the Roman and Jewish leaders of the time in Israel. It seems to me that the responsibility for Jesus's cruxificition is shared by certain individual Jews and an individual Roman.
Some Jewish religious leaders played a part and the Roman Pilate did not have the manhood to do what he believed was right.
Jesus, the Apostles and Mary were Jews. Were they to blame?
My ancestors, who were then living in the Roman province of Hispania, were Roman citizens or subjects at the time. Were they to blame?
I believe in individual responsibility and not collective guilt. It's a fault of mine.
77 posted on
07/30/2003 9:52:07 PM PDT by
Polybius
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