Unpatriotic Conservatives -- A war against America. MANDATORY READ -- DETAILS PALEOCONSERVATIVES

National Review On-Line ^ | March 19, 2003 | David Frum

[PhiKapMom]

Today while reading a thread that described why someone thought President Bush would not be reelected, I ran across the word paleo -- not in my dictionary! So I took the opportunity to look to see what this word meant. I became shocked while reading David Frum's description of paleoconservatives. All of a sudden, it made sense. Novak hasn't made sense for a long time and neither has Sen Hagel. But they do now!

Not to mention some Freepers on here with their anti-war, anti-everything stance!

The bold and underline are mine for emphasis! Now I know what paleo means and so will you!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You mean you missed the gigantic battles of March and early April?

[Constitution Day]

Unpatriotic Conservatives posted 03/19/2003 with 488 comments.

[NeoCaveman]

How did you miss the weeks of flame wars had over this article? Were you n vacation in April?

[JohnGalt]

Right here in River City?

[PhiKapMom]

This is Mandatory reading for Bush-Cheney '04 supporters because it details what we are up against from some of the "so-called" conservatives. Their idea of conservatism sure doesn't match mine or those of other Republican conservatives I associate with.

This explains some of the hatred we see on here against President Bush and his supporters. I don't mean the people that disagree with the President on issues but the Freepers that are just hateful toward the President even as a person and cannot find anything he does right. That has never made any sense to me but after reading this it does!

This article was sure an eye opener. I don't know if this was posted when it originally came out but this article needs wide circulation today to others who had no idea what a paleo was!

[PhiKapMom]

I wasn't here much in March/April because I was really busy! Normally work out of the house but during those times I was way busier than normal.

No one bumped me to this because I don't ever remember reading it.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

488 posts

45 posts

3 posts

Response thread - 230 posts

And thats just the stuff surrounding Frum.

[PhiKapMom]

I missed it in total and so did a lot of people I know!

[PhiKapMom]

I was tied up with what I do for a living! I know I would have remembered that!

[bvw]

The paleos have their points. To see deep Paleo look to LibertyForum.com. To see a mix of paleo, neo and various conservative viewpoints look to LibertyPost.Org.

Both sites have a good number of posters who are or were FR posters.

[Cincinatus]

Novak hasn't made sense for a long time and neither has Sen Hagel. But they do now!

Chuck Hagel isn't a paleocon. He's a simple opportunist, just like McCain. I don't know if he has any ideological beliefs.

[onyx]

I missed it too --- you're hardly alone!

[hchutch]

Never hurts to have a re-posting of this one.

To be honest, I think there is a bit of a re-alignment coming - the current coalitions that make up the two major parties are beginning to fray - the one that makes up the Dems much faster.

I'm going to admit that I've had a feeling some conservatives have just as strong an impulse to control things as Hillary Clinton does - and I have the same opinion their control freak attitude that I have about Hillary's: I don't like it.

[Cyber Liberty]

The hatred of Bush does not surprise me as much as the condescending attitude the bunch of jerks have regarding us "Bushbots". Somehow, they think that when they hurl personal vindictives at us, we're supposed to "understand" that they don't mean us (as individuals), which is a lame excuse for going out of your way to hurt your friends.

It's costing personal friendships with members I've known on this forum for a long time. Now, they sit off-camera in wannabe fora pitching mudballs at us. Eff 'em, the whole bunch.

Hear that, Losers? I've had it with your sniping at my friends.

[Cyber Liberty]

Hey, I missed it too, and I don't usually waste my posts on 400+ threads. Nobody would see it.

[MeekOneGOP]

[steve50]

This crap started as soon as the base conservatives complained about Bush signing CFR. I'm tired of anyone who doesn't bow and worship being bashed by the neos. Keep it up guys,the margin of victory was so large last time you don't need the old school republicans anyway.

[Poohbah]

To be honest, I think there is a bit of a re-alignment coming - the current coalitions that make up the two major parties are beginning to fray - the one that makes up the Dems much faster.

And the paleocons manage to sound even more to the left, economically, than the Democrats do.

Maybe the Dems just think that being "liberal" means that they can't be too overtly Marxist.

But it's interesting that Buchanan had absolutely no problem jumping into bed (for a while) with Lenora Fulani, a hard-core Marxist ideologue.

And Lyndon LaRouche is a registered Democrat.

Democrat 2004 ticket: Buchanan/LaRouche!

[Always Right]

You may know the names of these antiwar conservatives. Some are famous: Patrick Buchanan and Robert Novak.

I guess if you hang out at CNN too long you turn into a babbling idiot.