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| 7.18.03
| The Associated Press
Posted on 07/20/2003 9:45:33 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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Barbara Curley stands next to photos of her son, Jeffrey Curley, at her home in Cambridge, Mass., in 1998. Jeffrey was kidnapped and killed in October 1997. |
BOSTON A group that promotes sex between men and boys asked a federal judge yesterday to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the parents of 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley, who was murdered by one of the group's members.
Curley was killed on Oct. 1, 1997. Salvatore Sicari, of Cambridge, was convicted of first-degree murder in the case, while Charles Jaynes, of Brockton and Manchester, N.H., was convicted of second-degree murder and kidnapping.
Last year, the boy's parents, Barbara and Robert Curley, filed a $200 million wrongful death lawsuit against the North American Man/Boy Love Association, claiming Jaynes was incited by the group.
In court yesterday, lawyers with the Massachusetts chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, which is defending NAMBLA in the lawsuit, said that even though many people may find the group's beliefs repugnant, its publications and Web site are protected under First Amendment guarantees of freedom of speech.
"We contend that the First Amendment was intended to apply exactly to organizations like this. If we can't protect their rights, then the rights of other organizations are all at risk," said John Reinstein, legal director of the Massachusetts ACLU chapter.
Lawrence Frisoli, a lawyer for the Curleys, said the boy's death was a direct result of the encouragement Jaynes received from NAMBLA to sexually attack young boys.
"The lawsuit is about NAMBLA training Charles Jaynes to rape kids," Frisoli said.
Prosecutors said the men lured the boy from his Cambridge neighborhood with the promise of a new bike, then smothered him with a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances.
The men molested and suffocated the boy before stuffing his body into a concrete-filled container and dumping it in the Great Works River, in South Berwick, Maine.
The lawsuit alleges that Jaynes joined NAMBLA in the fall of 1996, read the group's publications and Web site and "became obsessed with having sex with and raping young male children."
The suit also alleges that Jaynes viewed the NAMBLA Web site shortly before he and Sicari lured the boy. The suit does not allege that Sicari was a member of the group.
"Can NAMBLA be held responsible for Jaynes' conduct based on these allegations? No," Reinstein said.
Barbara Curley, the boy's mother, said the lawsuit is aimed at exposing NAMBLA.
"They got him interested in little boys and taught him how to lure little boys," she said. "They don't fall under the First Amendment rights at all."
U.S. District Judge George O'Toole took the request to dismiss the lawsuit under advisement. He did not say when he would issue his ruling.
Sicari is serving a life sentence without parole. Jaynes can seek parole in 22 years.
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To: freepatriot32; scripter
Here it is, the PROOF!
ACLU defends NAMBLA!
In addition, how come we didn't hear about THIS case in the news ad infinatum, like Matthew Shepard? It's because the newsmedia wants us to think gays are just like you and I, they're harmless really.
But we know, it's complete utter BS.
To: freepatriot32
go get 'em!
I first heard of NAMBLA more than 20 years ago from gay friends in LA -- they were digusted by it and trying to get other gays and straights they knew to oppose it in its infant stages. Almost everyone they talked to about it thought NAMBLA was just a joke, and gave my friends a bad time about being alarmists. Pity more people wouldn't listen.
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posted on
07/20/2003 9:55:00 AM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: freepatriot32
American Civil Liberties Union, which is defending NAMBLA in the lawsuit,
Your KIDDING!!(Sarcasm off)
Why am I not suprised. Where are they when people try and talk to the young ladies going into the abortion clinics? We can kill them before they see the light of day, we can rape and murder them, no wonder they are confused! If that's "The Village" that Hillary was speaking of then count me out.
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posted on
07/20/2003 9:55:05 AM PDT
by
CCCV
To: freepatriot32
The perps of this crime are doing very hard time at MCI Cedar Junction (aka Walpole). A prison guard called into a talk show and said they are not having a good time there.
To: freepatriot32
ACLU.... so concerned about their invented separation of church and state
taking God out of the Pledge
incessant lobbying making school prayer illegal
The harrassing of kids who want to bring their bibles to school
defender of the sickest most vile sexual predators ...
What a great addition to our culture these atheist bass turds are...
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:01:21 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: freepatriot32
Imagine the national furor if the headline read, "ACLU asks federal judge to dismiss case against man-girl sex group." We wouldn't tolerate the existance of such a group in this nation if it involved girls, and we should be equally as outraged that these monsters target young boys. It doesn't surprise me AT ALL that the ACLU is taking the lead in this.
To: Semper Paratus
they are not having a good time there
Walpole is too good for people such as them. They raped the boy, murdered him, put him in a weighted box, and threw the box with him in it over a bridge into a river.
Those degenerates should have been executed years ago.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:04:27 AM PDT
by
Radix
To: freepatriot32
Does anyone know what, if any, redeeming words there are in a lawyer's oath after passing the bar? Certainly, in so many words, its says" Do whatever it takes to get your client off", and I suspect, nowhere is there any reference to justice.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:04:36 AM PDT
by
ampat
To: freepatriot32
Barbara Curley stands next to photos of her son, Jeffrey Curley, at her home in Cambridge, Mass., in 1998. Jeffrey was kidnapped and killed in October 1997.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:05:14 AM PDT
by
freepatriot32
(Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
To: freepatriot32
Braggadocio Bill O'Reilly has championed this case for several years now, with good cause. He'll address the movement in the case I'm sure.
My rather large gut has a BAD feeling about this case. If the case was being held in Arkansas, (site of another NAMBLA inspired vicious homosexual gang rape and murder on a pubescent male, Jesse Dirkheising), a saner verdict would be reached. In the land of the Kennedy, a decision against NAMBLA is a long shot.
To: freepatriot32
An ethical or moral wrong can always be measured by the ACLU's position on ANY given issue...
Shame on Bob Barr for ANY affiliation with this heinous so-called "liberties" advocacy group.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:12:36 AM PDT
by
F16Fighter
(Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
To: F16Fighter
F16Fighter,
Wasn't some white supremist group sued by a group of blacks because the blacks felt that the group instigated racial violence and hatred. The group of blacks won a money judgement, I believe.
Well, the same should go for this namla group, then. They instigate the abuse of minor boys.
To: freepatriot32
Last year, the boy's parents, Barbara and Robert Curley, filed a $200 million wrongful death lawsuit against the North American Man/Boy Love Association, claiming Jaynes was incited by the group.Here is my question: what is the difference between this lawsuit and the RICO lawsuit against the pro-life organization? Why did the ACLU not step forward and defend the pro-lifers? I think we know the reason why.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:23:21 AM PDT
by
ikka
To: freepatriot32
The ACLU showing their true beliefs.
Also many of the "Libertarian Right" on FR, IMO, praise everything the ACLU does.
No surprise there.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:28:41 AM PDT
by
Dane
To: freepatriot32
Disgusted bump.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:30:21 AM PDT
by
FourPeas
To: freepatriot32
Thanks for the post. The ACLU is truly disgusting...
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:32:50 AM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: freepatriot32
The ACLU thinks pedophilia is chic but works to stamp out God in America. Its their interpretation of the First Amendment that's twisted. If at least they were consistent in their defense of unpopular views they would have more credibility.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:37:53 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: freepatriot32
The lawsuit alleges that Jaynes joined NAMBLA in the fall of 1996... The suit does not allege that Sicari was a member of the group.
How can it allege both of these things? Most likely, the reporter is an idiot.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:45:35 AM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: I_Love_My_Husband
...how come we didn't hear about THIS case in the news ad infinatum, like Matthew Shepard?
But...the Curley case has been covered well on The Coral Ridge Hour, in the 10-15 minute
segment that runs after the sermon by the Coral Ridge pastor, D. James Kennedy.
The hi-jinks of the ACLU get coverage on that show every couple of months.
D. James Kennedy and his somewhat theatric style may not be my cup of tea, but the
Coral Ridge does a good job of covering current affairs of interest to Christians. And they
often include opposition interviews, e.g., with Ira Glasser of the ACLU.
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posted on
07/20/2003 10:46:07 AM PDT
by
VOA
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