[FascistSlayer]

I know I sound like an instigator, or a disruptor, or whatever, but I'm not.

I have read this board before, and to be honest, I'm pretty sure any sources that I trust will be ones that many here don't.

But here's one lie.

The Niger claim. Bush claimed that Iraq tried to buy uranium from an African country, later revealed as Niger, in the State of the Union speech.

This was not true. The CIA let him know before the SotU. He still used this claim in the speech. The documents used to "prove" the claim were forged, according to the IAEA.

Now, the administration claims it was the CIA's fault. But the White House was informed before the SotU speech, and the CIA successfully had the statement cut. Yet it still wound up in the speech.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/weekly/newsnat-14jul2003-22.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,997712,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3063013.stm
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/13/1058034872962.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=424234

[CONSERVE]

I have read this board before,

You haven't read it lately then have you this (the Niger claim) has been hashed and rehashed around here for the past three days.

[cwb]

Oh boy...here we go again:>)

[Prodigal Son]

And where in all these links does it say your president lied to you? You need to get on the ball here. I see a bunch of links purporting this or that but nowhere do I find evidence of Presidential lying.

Furthermore, why did you not provide these links earlier? Why not provide them in your initial posts???

[Skywalk]

Wow, the Guardian, ABC and BBC, quite a lineup of 'credible' sources you've got there.

BTW, do you honestly take us for fools? Despite the fact that fascism is an anti-individualist, anti-liberal(in the old sense of the term) movement, leftists consistently call right-wingers 'Fascist.'

So when you come on this forum TODAY, making THIS post, with the name 'FascistSlayer' you can guess what our reaction might be, can't you?

Explain to me how a constitutional republic, free enterprise and trade, ability to freely contract with others, free speech and thought and the right to self-defense are 'fascist?'

[Prodigal Son]

And post number One Hundred Ninety something! Jeez. It took you almost two hundred posts to come up with BS links!?

[weegee]

This thread ties together threads that counter that "lie"

Waiting for Terrance J. Wilkinson -- The Rise and Fall of the 'Bush Lied' Smear...

You are changing the subject. Your thread is about the Saddam-9/11 "lie".

If you want to challenge other "news", why don't you respond to existing threads rather than launching a fishing expedition vanity thread?

[weegee]

This thread ties together threads that counter that "lie"

Waiting for Terrance J. Wilkinson -- The Rise and Fall of the 'Bush Lied' Smear...

You are changing the subject. Your thread is about the Saddam-9/11 "lie".

If you want to challenge other "news", why don't you respond to existing threads rather than launching a fishing expedition vanity thread?

[weegee]

This thread ties together threads that counter that "lie"

Waiting for Terrance J. Wilkinson -- The Rise and Fall of the 'Bush Lied' Smear...

You are changing the subject. Your thread is about the Saddam-9/11 "lie".

If you want to challenge other "news", why don't you respond to existing threads rather than launching a fishing expedition vanity thread?

[txrangerette]

Sorry, no lie. He said the Brits intel
found this to be true. They did, they
still do. Bush didn't know about the
forged doc. 'til March, SOTU was in
Jan. Irrelevant, anyway. There were
other sources besides the fake doc.

Wake up. Congress voted for force in
Oct. of '02, months before the one
line in SOTU. They lie if they claim
now that Bush's line misled them into
war.

And they called for force against SH
in '98 based on WMD intel.

They are lying about Bush & about the
past. They are traitors to America.

You are too obvious, not to be taken
at face value. The real liars aren't
even a blip on your radar screen.

[cyncooper]

But here's one lie.

The Niger claim. Bush claimed that Iraq tried to buy uranium from an African country, later revealed as Niger, in the State of the Union speech.

This was not true. The CIA let him know before the SotU. He still used this claim in the speech. The documents used to "prove" the claim were forged, according to the IAEA.

That is a lie.

You are the liar.

The documents that are determined to be forgeries were so determined AFTER the SOTU speech.

The British to this day stand by their intelligence and believe it is a fact that Iraq was seeking to obtain uranium from SEVERAL African countries.

And to this very day the U.S. has reason to believe it, too, as Condi Rice stated on today.

You are twisting facts for our own deceitful purposes.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

First of all you need to get what was said in the SOTU address correct.

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Then you need to realize that the British still stand behind that claim because they have other sources besides the one that depended on the false documents.

The earlier statement that the CIA nixed was more specific(about Niger) and was based on George Wilson's 8 day trip there, where he asked the government and the mining companies if they had shipped or sold any uranium oxide to Iraq. Of course, they said no.

[cyncooper]

Before you spread more of your lies, you best read Tenet's Statement.

You may be used to speaking to fatuous idiots, but this place isn't buying your b.s.

[zip]

You didn't do yourself a favor by posting leftist, anti American, known purveyors of lies as your sources. BBC - Guardian - for pete's sake.