The Tenet Fiasco - Discussion Thread

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[Cathryn Crawford]

George Tenet's admission last night that it was his mistake that caused President Bush to use faulty intelligence in his State of The Union address is interesting at the same time as it is convienent. In the statement itself, which is lengthy and filled with reasons as to the intelligence failure, Tenet wholeheartedly takes responsility for his agency.

"Let me be clear about several things right up front. First, CIA approved the President's State of the Union address before it was delivered. Second, I am responsible for the approval process in my Agency. And third, the President had every reason to believe that the text presented to him was sound. These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the President. "

On the face of it, this admission seems like the perfect solution to the growing problems for both the Bush and Blair administration. It's all CIA's fault, they can claim. But is that really viable?

On the face of it, perhaps. But Bush is the President. He has to take final responsibility, doesn't he?

If Bush can truly claim to know absolutely nothing, then don't we have a serious problem - wouldn't that imply that Bush is either incompetent or is simply not paying attention?

For discussion purposes - has Bush been conned by Tenet? And if he has, isn't that rather serious?

And if he wasn't conned by Tenet, what is the alternative?

[hoosiermama]

Post this to a thread!

[cyncooper]

If they are inaccurate now, then of course they were inaccurate when spoken. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But were they known to be inaccurate when spoken. That's the key...... not that they've been proven inaccurate now.

The words were accurate when spoken and they remain accurate in every way now.

The question is was it appropriate for a POTUS to make reference to a situation buttressed mostly by foreign intelligence and not relying on our own agency that could substantiate it. (And they do have some information to substantiate it, but not as much as they'd like.)

But as I keep pointing out, Blair and Straw most strenuosly stand by their intelligence to this very moment, and that is what President Bush said: That British intelligence has found that Iraq sought to obtain uraniam in Africa.

[nopardons]

I read it ANN her article. So ?

This isn't CC's site, she doesn't get to make the rules and her opinions are LIBERAL/LEFTY !

[hoosiermama]

OOPs forgot the number #496
Getting really dog tired. NIGHT!

[MEG33]

Thanks for pinging.My cable goes off and on and I'm way behind here!

[nopardons]

ANN =AND

[Refinersfire]

"Republicans that support President Bush would NEVER write something like that! DemocRATs want to destroy all Republicans and as a lifelong Republican I am supposed to sit and say we need to be bi-partisan?"

OMG! God forbid that someone, anyone write something improper (in your view) about another person and their actions! Off with their head!

[huck von finn]

This is vicious.

[PhiKapMom]

My daughter is 19 and a journalism student who took her course in Ethics in Journalism as a pre-journalism course in the spring semester and encouraged me to get involved in this thread once I was told CC was part of the media.

She was disgusted that someone in the media would put up this vanity thread and not reveal she was part of the media. And then expect all Freepers to know. My daughter agreed she asked leading questions like she was doing a story!

But then I guess my daughter's opinion would not count to some since she is conservative Republican and very much a Bush supporter.

[PhiKapMom]

Will do! I read it and freaked out!

[nopardons]

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The addition of the reply #, made ALL the difference in the world. LOL

[nopardons]

So is CC !

[hoosiermama]

"And if he wasn't conned by Tenet, what is the alternative?"

I gave her my opinion of the alternatives. Just like I mailed my opinion to 27 others (left and right) today and yesterday. SO who did you contact?

[Mo1]

As for supporting Bush, when he's right I back him, when he's wrong, I don't.

I'm not questioning that ..

[Refinersfire]

"When are some of you going to understand that this President is honest and honorable."

You mean like he is with the blocking of Foreign Aid in regards to the Life Issue? Seems that he just broke a promise this past week... oh well, carry on, nothing to see here..

[nopardons]

Your daughter is MORE of a jounalist, than Crawford and better educated to boot!

CC, a relative newbie here, is NOT what she pretends to be. She writes out of both sides of her mouth on threads and then gets all upset, when refuted/called on what she writes.

CC is about as much a part of the media, as is the woman down the street from me, who writes a gardening column for the town's weekly little paper. The only thing is, my neighbor writes better stuff.

[Torie]

Total crap. Period.

[nopardons]

The two local rags, that pass for newspapers hereabouts. :-)

[Dan from Michigan]

Bush is only president because a "conservative" supreme court that supposedly eschews judicial activism,

Florida's State Supremes were dem shills. All but three of them.

Furthermore, felons from states where voting rights are restored after time served were also purged from FL's voter rolls regardless

Too damn bad.

Why do you hate Clinton.

I hate Klinton because of his railroad job on Bill Dale. His freedom grabs with his buddy Janet Reno. His sellout to Communist China(he never saw a Communist he didn't love), and his crooked Mena operation. Good riddance to that tyrant.

see the Best Democracy money can Buy at your local bookstore for more information
Real credible source there.....

That's right George's pop got him a sweet deal in the Texas air nat'l guard, which he went awol from for somewhere between 1 and 2 years.

Bullshit.