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Denial becomes the new language of casual sex
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | July 3 2003 | Steve Dow

Posted on 07/02/2003 10:25:09 AM PDT by presidio9

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1 posted on 07/02/2003 10:25:10 AM PDT by presidio9
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Yes, I can now see why this group "needs" Supream Court contrived constitutional protections!
2 posted on 07/02/2003 10:28:44 AM PDT by NavyCaptain
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Maybe if AIDS lobbying groups stopped lobbying to encourage gay men and other irresponsible groups to get AIDS, fewer of them would get AIDS?

Nah, too un-PC.

It's the GOVERNMENT'S fault (no matter what government) that idiots get AIDS.

3 posted on 07/02/2003 10:31:46 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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If you have to be convinced by advertisements not to engage in suicidal behavior, you're too far gone to help.

Sodomites have decided to ignore right and wrong already, why does it surprise people that they've moved on to ignoring cause and effect?

4 posted on 07/02/2003 10:39:32 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Society has no interest in discouraging activities that spread a fatal and incurable disease, according to the Court's leftist members.
5 posted on 07/02/2003 10:42:27 AM PDT by Roscoe
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Increasingly, it is said gay men are making choices about whether to use condoms based on risk reduction rather than elimination.

Well, considering that condoms are about 85% effective, when used properly, in preventing pregnancy, they can't be used for risk elimination anyway. Especially when you consider:
A sperm is about 5 times bigger than the HIV virus
Pregnancy is possible about 5 to 10 days out of the month for most women, compared to the 365 days per year susceptibility of HIV.
Several additional reasons that the effectivity of condoms in preventing HIV infection in anal sex is probably even lower than their effectivity in preventing pregnancy are a little too distasteful to list in detail.

6 posted on 07/02/2003 10:43:46 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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Have these people never heard of that rare phenomenon called 'personal responsibility'?
7 posted on 07/02/2003 10:43:56 AM PDT by LQDSWRD
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In 10 years, maybe they'll all be dead.
8 posted on 07/02/2003 10:44:24 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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And barebacking may not be a problem if two men having sex are of the same HIV status - both negative, or both positive.

Sure. Putting your thing into sewage is good for it. Fecal matter is recommended as an unguent by everyone.

Is this idiot nuts or what?

9 posted on 07/02/2003 10:48:23 AM PDT by jimt
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In 10 years, maybe they'll all be dead.

No, the money that could have used to bring a faster cure for cancer will have bought an AIDS cure, and then we will subsidize its distribution. We will have succeeded in removing a strong motivator for behaving well.

10 posted on 07/02/2003 10:50:36 AM PDT by 7 x 77
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AIDS lobby groups are blaming declining federal government funding and leadership.

Yep, that must be the problem alright.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

11 posted on 07/02/2003 10:52:26 AM PDT by mikeb704
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In the Australian context, barebacking is about taking risks and denying consequences.

Actually, it's about taking risks and shifting the consequences and made possible by liberal enablers like those at the Morning Herald. It is ironic that those whose "compassion" compels them to squeal the loudest are those causing the damage.

12 posted on 07/02/2003 11:04:32 AM PDT by laredo44
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My take on AIDS has always been this:

"It should come as no surprise that something bad happens when a man inserts his penis into another man's anus."

13 posted on 07/02/2003 11:05:01 AM PDT by onehipdad
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Does anyone come right out and say: Homosexuality means an early and often painful death from AIDS?
14 posted on 07/02/2003 11:09:11 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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The saddest and most thought provoking situation I have been involved in lately is meeting someone who is now a good friend of mine; a gay, Christian, conservative guy.

He has his pistol permit. He's libertarian conservative who believes 100% in defending the Constitution. He believes he will probably go to Hell for being a homosexual. He says he was born that way and just knew from a very early age that he did not like girls and was attracted to guys. He is truly disgusted by outward displays of sexual affection, both homosexual and heterosexual, gay pride parades, cries for "equal rights" (he says special rights), etc.

He believes in the Bible and it tears me up that he believes he will go to Hell. I guess he's still trying to figure out why God made him a walking irony. I wonder myself what God's plan for him was, if he indeed was born gay.

He's not promiscious, I think he's been with a couple of people before, but he wants to find a like-minded guy and be in a committed relationship. I guess the moral of the story is that not all gay guys are promiscuous flamers.
15 posted on 07/02/2003 11:13:45 AM PDT by bc2
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Someone should tell him that the ACT is wrong, not the "orientation". Perhaps a better word would be susceptibility. We are all susceptible to every evil, just not all to the same degree.
16 posted on 07/02/2003 11:33:22 AM PDT by thirdheavenward
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He believes in the Bible and it tears me up that he believes he will go to Hell. I guess he's still trying to figure out why God made him a walking irony. I wonder myself what God's plan for him was, if he indeed was born gay.

God did not make him gay. Homosexuality is learned behavior.

17 posted on 07/02/2003 11:45:13 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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well I would normally tend to agree. But when he says he's 6 years old and just knew he was different and couldn't figure it out until he was about 10, I'm not so sure.

and knowing his friends and family, it's virtually impossible for him to learn this behaviour. His parents are high ranking ex-military, all-American, living in small-town USA. Not at all San Francisco or NYC elitist pinko types.
18 posted on 07/02/2003 12:05:34 PM PDT by bc2
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hate the sin, love the sinner ?
19 posted on 07/02/2003 12:06:18 PM PDT by bc2
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He believes in the Bible and it tears me up that he believes he will go to Hell. I guess he's still trying to figure out why God made him a walking irony. I wonder myself what God's plan for him was, if he indeed was born gay.



Your friend sounds like a nice guy. Maybe it will help him to know that God made us ALL sinful in one way or another and one is not worse than another. God knows mankind can not help being who God made them (sinners)

Whats bad about sin of any kind is not in the sin but Non-Repentance. Your friend sounds like he's repentant to the point of being too harsh on himself.



20 posted on 07/02/2003 12:38:59 PM PDT by Roughneck (Get the U.N. out of the U.S, and get the U.S. out of the U.N.)
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