Is Light Slowing Down?

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[DannyTN]

I thought the discussion of "redshifts" as very interesting. I've long wondered if the there could be alternative reasons for the redshift observed in galaxies and starts other than "expansion of the universe".

[bvw]

If the universe is "expanding" perhaps the streching of the empty space does change the dielectirc constant of empty space.

[Consort]

In 1923 he measured it as 299,798 km/sec. In 1933, at Irvine, CA, as 299,774 km/sec.)

I was in Irvine last week and light does travel slower there.

[Radix]

Sometimes, it seems to me that there is an absence of Light in this place.

 

 

The speed of light is a constant.

 

 

Main Entry: ve·loc·i·ty
Pronunciation: v&-'lä-s&-tE, -'läs-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle French velocité, from Latin velocitat-, velocitas, from veloc-, velox quick; probably akin to Latin vegEre to enliven -- more at WAKE
Date: circa 1550
1 a : quickness of motion : SPEED <the velocity of sound> b : rapidity of movement <[my horse's]g strong suit is grace & personal comeliness, rather than velocity -- Mark Twain> c : speed imparted to something <the power pitcher relies on velocity -- Tony Scherman>
2 : the rate of change of position along a straight line with respect to time : the derivative of position with respect to time
3 a : rate of occurrence or action : RAPIDITY <the velocity of historical change -- R. J. Lifton> <the narrative leaps from one frantic episode to another with impressive velocity -- James Atlas> b : rate of turnover <the velocity of money>

[noutopia]

I have noticed in lots of research done by myself that Bud-Lite doe's travel faster after about a six pack.

[DallasMike]

Think what would happen to E = mc² if light traveled millions of times faster 10,000 years ago. The earth would have been engulfed in the sun and we wouldn't be sitting here having this discussion.

Sorry, I'm a Christian but the young-earth folks just never think of the real-world ramifications of their crazy theories that aren't based on either the Bible or secular science. They just end up painting all Christians with the brush of foolishness.

[DannyTN]

Speed of Light, Redshift Ping

[longshadow]

here we go again.....

[GoLightly]

http://www.ldolphin.org/cdkconseq.html

[stevem]

What happens when the speed of light moves to zero?

[DannyTN]

"What happens when the speed of light moves to zero? "

I'm in the dark?

[DannyTN]

Thanks, that was a really interesting link. I'm going to post an excerpt from it here...

Measurements on constants of physics which do not carry dimensions of time (seconds or 1/seconds; or powers thereof) are found to be truly fixed and invariant. The variability of one set of constants does not lead to an unstable universe, nor to readily observable happenings in the physical world. The principle consequence is a decreasing run rate for atomic clocks as compared to dynamical clocks. The latter clocks depend on gravity and Newton's Laws of Motion.

In the first thorough statistical study of all the available data on the velocity of light in recent decades, presented in Barry Setterfield and Trevor Norman's 1987 report The Atomic Constants, Light, and Time, the authors also analyzed (in addition to values of c), measurements of the charge on the electron, e, the specific charge, e/mc, the Rydberg constant, R, the gyromagnetic ratio, the quantum Hall resistance, h/e2, 2e/h, and h/e, various radioactive decay constants, and Newton's gravitational constant G.

Three of these Norman and Setterfield quantities found to be truly fixed constants, namely e, R, and G. These constants are either independent of time or independent of atomic processes. The other five quantities, which are related to atomic phenomena and which involve time in their units of measurement, were found to trend, with the exception of the quantum Hall resistance.

[plsjr]

Thanks, Danny, for posting this.

I will be interested in seeing whether the creation vs. evolution debate continues on this thread or is ignored.

A friend of mine introduced me to Chuck Missler's Personal Update in '96 with the 'first year free' offer. I've maintained my subscription since then.

Chuck has been a CEO of a half-dozen or so major international business and on the board of directors of as many others. A voracious student of the Bible since he was a teen, and a student of science and international intelligence, he provides a cogent perspective to world and scientific affairs.

Those who wish to pursue the truth, whether believers or not, would do well to include the information provided by Chuck and Koinonia House in their studies.

[LRS]

What happens when the speed of light moves to zero?

Change the batteries...

[gcruse]

"Is light slowing down?"

The older stuff is. Brand new light is fast as ever.

[Monty22]

Is it possible that since time changes based on velocity and gravity, that the 'per second' constants are altered from that?

Maybe it's the time that's changing?

[rgboomers]

"What happens when the speed of light moves to zero? "

What comes to mind immediately is a black hole. Remember the case of the dead collapsed star that has become so massive and dense that light can not escape it? Would not the velocity of light orginating from a black hole be zero? So, if we could calculate the rate of deceleration of light in our part of the universe, could we project the death of the sun? I really don't know, just asking.

[MattAMiller]

You could just apply the older methods today and see if they really did correctly measure the speed of light back then or if we've just gotten more and more accurate.

[GoLightly]

If you haven't already explored Mr. Dolphin's website, there's a whole lot more there:


http://www.ldolphin.org/


His site cured me of evolution indoctrination... I used to think that Genesis was explained by messing with the length of a day, making Biblical creation fit with evolution theology. Much of science is a crutch used by athests & humanist theologians IMHO. IOW, they rely a lot on faith, though they'll never admit to it.

Mind you, the theory of the exsistance of a 4th dimension brings to mind a 2 dimentional Homer Simpson viewing 3 dimentional creatures that happen upon his 2 dimentional plane as looking a heck of a lot like UFO's to him. Simply put, I make no claim to having anything resembling Knowledge & just think it's good for the soul to go mind tripping with people much smarter than I am from time to time. ;o)

[edsheppa]

If any of these properties change isotopically,...

"Isotopically," sure, whatever.