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OK, it's one thing to be celibate during high school. I can understand that. I can even understand being celibate until you get married, assuming you are planning to get married in your early 20s. But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.
1 posted on 06/15/2003 10:39:15 AM PDT by Mister Magoo
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"When you give your body, you open an area to them that is really sacred. You exchange spirits with that person and that is how you end up with heartaches, pain and jealousy. There are women out here who are cheating just like men. You can't blame one [gender] more than the other. If men stood up and took the initiative and treated women with more respect and respected their bodies, women would want their bodies respected."

I gotta remember this line.... ;-)

57 posted on 06/15/2003 11:49:00 AM PDT by HitmanLV (Who is number 6? You are number 1.)
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I dated a very intelligent woman

Mistake.

an attorney,

Bigger mistake.

63 posted on 06/15/2003 11:50:28 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.

Yes. What's wrong is that he is commitment phobic. As he practically said himself:

"I dated a very intelligent woman, an attorney, who was OK with celibacy," Washington said. "But after six months, she wanted me to make a commitment. She felt if she knew we were going to marry then she could abstain. I couldn't make that promise."

94 posted on 06/15/2003 12:23:38 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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I'm firmly commited to being celibate - one day a week.
99 posted on 06/15/2003 12:29:06 PM PDT by PianoMan (Liberate the Axis of Evil)
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"When you give your body, you open an area to them that is really sacred. You exchange spirits with that person and that is how you end up with heartaches, pain and jealousy.

Maybe if he'd had some plain old sex he wouldn't give it up so easy. All that exchanging spirits and stuff is exausting, I prefer the quickie roll in the sack myself. ;-)

101 posted on 06/15/2003 12:30:46 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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OK, it's one thing to be celibate during high school. I can understand that. I can even understand being celibate until you get married, assuming you are planning to get married in your early 20s. But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.

Tell Jesus

111 posted on 06/15/2003 12:41:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Men who stay celibate at 33 are pretty much either gay or impotent.
112 posted on 06/15/2003 12:43:19 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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After talking to Washington, I recalled something my father used to say when his daughters started dating: "Why buy the cow when the milk is free?"

OTOH, if one has already bought the cow and the milk dries up, why keep feeding it?

126 posted on 06/15/2003 12:59:04 PM PDT by sauropod (Mo Dowd is a Stepford Wife Wanna-be. She wanted to be a Douglas Wife...)
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The best line of the whole article: "We have to stop using each other," he said. "One way to do that is to abstain."
128 posted on 06/15/2003 12:59:46 PM PDT by Hildy
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>>>But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.

Uh, nooooo, that means you've actually waited to have sex instead of sleeping around. What's wrong with that? Is there a law that says you can't keep it to yourself? That you can't wait until you're married to let it out? If my daughter finds a man who has waited all his life and hasn't done it somewhere else, I would die 100% happy.

And BTW, he said he started being celibate. He wasn't always that way. Read the article.

I personally applaud this man. I think it's great, what he's doing. So many people --esp. guys--- want to have as much sex as possible. It's really nice to hear that not everyone has that on their mind--and that some people still have morals. He may not have the first stuff now, but it's still great that he's waiting for marriage before he does it again.
136 posted on 06/15/2003 1:07:20 PM PDT by 4mycountry (Japanese drain pipe is so tiny, please don't flush too much toilet papers.)
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But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.

Why is there something wrong?

159 posted on 06/15/2003 1:33:46 PM PDT by tutstar
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Hey, I'm celibate 'till marriage and I'll be 37 next month. I'm proud of this guy.
161 posted on 06/15/2003 1:34:19 PM PDT by Nowhere Man
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179 posted on 06/15/2003 2:03:51 PM PDT by fnord ( Hyprocisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue)
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unless this guy is trying to pickup girls at Church, this comes across as "like totally gay"
192 posted on 06/15/2003 2:12:40 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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ping
208 posted on 06/15/2003 2:29:12 PM PDT by Desdemona
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I was still celibate at 33, and I don' think that there was anything particularly wrong with me.

My biggest problem was that I listed to too much bad advice. Through my late teens and early twenties, I was deeply committed to a Christian life and involved in evangelical and pentecostal churches. While they would never admit it, those churches advocate a passive approach to relationships. In part, those churches are trying to cool young people's hormones so that they don't have sex before marriage. Given what the Bible clearly says about premarital sex, I don't blame them for this desire even though I disagree with the teaching that it produced. In part, those churches advocate a passive approach to relationships as part of advocating an active spiritual relationship with God. While I'm no longer pursuing that kind of relationship in the way that they taught, I don't blame them for the desire to advocate a relationship with God. Unfortunately for me, the "God will provide" strategy was never going to work in a million years and certainly didn't in 33 years. If anything was "wrong with me," it was that I tried to live the teaching more literally than many others.

Another factor is that I'm just not a good salesman, and dating is at least in part a case of salesmanship. Personally, I think our society has gone entirely too far towards what is "marketable" and away from what is true. I once knew a preacher whose church was too small to pay him and who supported himself as a salesman. He said my problem is the mindset of an engineer versus that of a salesman. If a salesman is rejected ten times, the salesman will go into the eleventh meeting believing that he'll make the sale. He'll say to himself, "I've got a great product. If the past ten calls have failed to produce a sale, the next one is bound to buy." An engineer takes the opposite view. An engineer looks at ten rejections and says, "I've run this experiment ten times. I've produced repeatable, statistically significant results. I know what the answer is. Why am I even here?" Unfortunately, I am an engineer with a strong engineering mindset.

A third factor is that for those of us who don't care for the bar scene, it's hard to meet people. I'm certainly no social butterfly, but I'm not a hermit either. However, I can't remember the last time my normal life brought me in contact with someone who would even be worth dating. Once one leaves college, the opportunities to meet people just aren't there. I met some women in church, but my perspective was always just a little too off-kilter to attract them. Most would say that my ideas were reasonable and thoughtful, but they'd rather date guys who just blindly parroted the "party line."

WFTR
Bill

214 posted on 06/15/2003 2:33:07 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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But if you are still celibate at 33, there is something wrong.

Make that 35, please?

231 posted on 06/15/2003 2:48:48 PM PDT by lowbridge (34 and celibate :-))
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Important overlooked point:

By age 30, 81 percent of white women and 77 percent of Asians and Hispanics will marry, but only 52 percent of black women will do so, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Ah, yes. The legacy of the welfare state. The KKK couldn't have done more harm to the black family than that inflicted by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the civil rights pimps and their limousine liberal "friends."

249 posted on 06/15/2003 3:22:44 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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I think this guy is a hero.. He puts his money where his mouth is and you have to respect that.

Bravo Mr Washington! You sir are a non-hypocrite.

PS: This reminds me of an odd situation with a friend of mine. He has custody of his children and the women he dates DON'T LIKE THAT..

But, of course when it's the chick who has kids.. then the very first thing they do is push them down your throat as some kind of litmus test. And you're supposed to be okay with that or there's something "wrong" with you.

250 posted on 06/15/2003 3:23:44 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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Mister Magoo, you really don't know what you're talking about. So there is something wrong with someone if they don't have sex until their 30's or 40's. As a Christian who badly wanted to be married (but wanted to find the right woman), I did not have sex until I was 41 when I got married. I disliked being single and I wanted to be married, but I made a conscious choice to not have sex until I married... And now I'm married to a great woman. I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR YOU: Don't give people bad advice.
258 posted on 06/15/2003 3:39:51 PM PDT by sruleoflaw
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