Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)

Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

[MississippiMan]

"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

Based on the homeschoolers I've known, that's an unorthodox approach, but it should certainly please the liberals since that's the very approach they want: no measurement of success, so no one "feels" bad about their lack of performance.

MM

[BabsC]

But, when did it become our country's creed to always play to the lowest common denominator?

Ever hear of a war on drugs?

[Elsie]

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal illegal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001.

[agrace]

How'd you do? ;)

[SauronOfMordor]

The DSS witch who said "your children belong to us and we can do what we want with them" deserves a smack in the jaw.

And if a parent had tried to do so, with the police standing by, they would have been arrested and the kids taken. Which would have been the whole idea. I think the DDS witch's remark was a deliberate provokation

The power of the State is limited to punishing those who break a law. So the trick is to provoke or lead one into breaking a law, so that the State will then have power over you.

As far as taking the test: different homeschool families have different ways of educating kids. With my middle kid, who is in 3rd grade, my decision was to concentrate on her reading level in the first three grades. She's currently testing as reading at close to 8th grade level. She's behind in other areas, but in my opinion will quickly catch up now that she's able to read well.

[Elsie]

George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George, as police and DSS workers attempted to collect the children at 7:45 a.m. DSS demanded that the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

Hey! Wait!!

This is a GOOD idea!!!

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Perhaps the entire state's schools students can take this test, and, if any are found to be failing, then some other entity OTHER than the State run schools should then be given the responsibility of bringing the failures up to a government standard!!!

[CyberCowboy777]

BTW -

I was home taught from the 6th grade on. I did attend classes at a local high school and college at different points.

All our testing was done by a private organization, except once when it was the state standardized testing administered by the county. We all scored much higher than our grade levels (I was not the only one to measure college levels in multiple categories.)

I did take the GED, to make life a little simpler. Took the entire test in one day and finished with much more than half the time allotted left. I scored in the highest percentile for the state and was in the national running that year for highest score (all top candidates were private and home school). I received a "congratulations" letter from the POTUS, which I never show as it is signed by William Jefferson Clinton.

[Thud]

I've used a writ of habeas corpus (Latin for "Produce The Body") in a child abduction case involving a jealous sister. If the Massachusetts social workers step over the line, and it looks like they have, they can be hauled into federal court with a habeas corpus writ to return the children to their parents. Furthermore, since state action was involved, the State would have to pay the parents' attorney fees for violating their civil rights and those of their children.

The idjits took the kids away from their parents when the kids refused to obey the idjits. That's a constitutional due process violation.

[american spirit]

I'll second that.

[MattGarrett]

"From my cold, dead, fingers ..."
- NRA

[Lady Eileen]

The state has custody of all children in the Fourier commune of Mass. Why don't they simply remove all children at birth and take them to the state nursery?

Government School = State Nursery.

[Lady Eileen]

Thanks for the ping.

[CyberCowboy777]

I'd say the blindfolds need to come down. Children are being hurt in this darkness.

[ladylib]

"Your children belong to us and we can do what we want with them."

I hope every conservative talk show on the Eastern Seaboard and across the country picks up on that government lackey's comment.

[Elsie]

The DSS witch who said "your children belong to us and we can do what we want with them" deserves more than a smack in the jaw.

[ladylib]

The same William Jefferson Clinton who wanted to regulate home schooling under his and the Hildabeast's reign? I'm so surprised!

[Elsie]

Actually, they may be able to move to another district within the state that is kinder to homeschooling??

NO!!!

F**K'em!!!!!!

Stand up to the goons: don't LET them grind you down.

NO MORE Elians!!!

[CyberCowboy777]

As far as he knew I was a drop out that used some socialist program he funded to force the state into pulling me up by my welfare paid for boot straps.

Which could not be further from the truth.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I have a degree in social work, I am not proud of that at all. I am a homeschool
Mom of two boys. I am going to freep mail you something I found that you may already be a ware of. If I can help you with your project please freepmail me. That is a sad story. I would like to help.

[Tax-chick]

don't all homeschoolers have to take a test at some point? ged or sat or something to measure minimal competancy?

No, they don't. That's the short answer. The long answer is that it depends on the state, the type of curriculum the family uses, and the students' goals.

Some states require homeschooled students to take the same tests as public school students. These tests are generally such a joke that home school associations will also administer real tests, Iowa or Stanford, for parents who want to use the tests to learn something about their children's progress.

If a family uses a correspondence program, such as Calvert, Seton, Bob Jones, Alpha-Omega ... they can receive a high school diploma that's recognized by colleges and employers. Recently the U.S. military has begun recognizing homeschool diplomas. Some students find it useful to take the G.E.D., particularly if they want to enroll in college before they're of "graduation" age.

And homeschool students take the SAT, ACT or other tests as required for college admission, depending on what kind of higher education they pursue.