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Psychiatric Association Debates Lifting Pedophilia Taboo
CNSNews.com ^ | 6/11/03 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 06/11/2003 2:18:54 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - In a step critics charge could result in decriminalizing sexual contact between adults and children, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.

Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness - including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

Most of the mental illnesses being considered for removal are known as "paraphilias."

Psychiatrist Charles Moser of San Francisco's Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality and co-author Peggy Kleinplatz of the University of Ottawa presented conferees with a paper entitled "DSM-IV-TR and the Paraphilias: An Argument for Removal."

People whose sexual interests are atypical, culturally forbidden or religiously proscribed should not necessarily be labeled mentally ill, they argued.

Different societies stigmatize different sexual behaviors, and since the existing research could not distinguish people with paraphilias from so-called "normophilics," there is no reason to diagnose paraphilics as either a distinct group or psychologically unhealthy, Moser and Kleinplatz stated.

Participants also debated gender-identity disorder, a condition in which a person feels discomfort with his or her biological sex. Homosexual activists have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal.

"The situation of the paraphilias at present parallels that of homosexuality in the early 1970s. Without the support or political astuteness of those who fought for the removal of homosexuality, the paraphilias continue to be listed in the DSM," Moser and Kleinplatz wrote.

A. Dean Byrd, vice president of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) and a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Utah, condemned the debate. Taking the paraphilias out of the DSM without research would have negative consequences, he said.

"What this does, in essence, is it has a chilling effect on research," Byrd said. "That is, once you declassify it, there's no reason to continue studying it. What we know is that the paraphilias really impair interpersonal sexual behavior...and to suggest that it could be 'normalized' simply takes away from the science, but more importantly, has a chilling effect on research."

"Normalizing" pedophilia would have enormous implications, especially since civil laws closely follow the scientific community on social-moral matters, said Linda Ames Nicolosi, NARTH publications director.

"If pedophilia is deemed normal by psychiatrists, then how can it remain illegal?" Nicolosi asked. "It will be a tough fight to prove in the courts that it should still be against the law."

In previous articles, psychiatrists have argued that there is little or no proof that sex with adults is necessarily harmful to minors. Indeed, they have argued that many sexually molested children later look back on their experience as positive, Nicolosi said.

"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

But whether pedophilia should be judged "normal and healthy" is as much a moral question as a scientific one, according to Nicolosi.

"The courts are so afraid of 'legislating someone's privately held religious beliefs' that if pedophilia is normalized, we will be hard put to defend the retention of laws against child molestation," Nicolosi noted.

In a fact sheet on pedophilia, the APA calls the behavior "criminal and immoral."

"An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act that never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior," the APA said.

However, the APA failed to address whether it considers a person with a pedophile orientation to have a mental disorder.

"That is the question that is being actively debated at this time within the APA, and that is the question they have not answered when they respond that such relationships are 'immoral and illegal,'" Nicolosi said.

Dr. Darrel A. Regier, director of research for the APA, said there were "no plans and there is no process set up that would lead to the removal of the paraphilias from their consideration as legitimate mental disorders."

Some years ago, the APA considered the question of whether a person who had such attractions but did not act on them should still be labeled with a disorder.

"We clarified in the DSM-IV-TR...that if a person acted on those urges, we considered it a disorder," Regier said.

Dr. Robert Spitzer, author of a study on change of sexual orientation that he presented at the 2001 APA convention, took part in the symposium in San Francisco in May.

Spitzer said the debate on removing gender identity disorder from the DSM was generated by people in the homosexual activist community "who are troubled by gender identity disorder in particular."

Spitzer added: "I happen to think that's a big mistake."

What Spitzer considered the most outrageous proposal, to get rid of the paraphilias, "doesn't have the same support that the gender-identity rethinking does." And he said he considers it unlikely that changes would be made regarding the paraphilias.

"Getting rid of the paraphilias, which would mean getting rid of pedophilia, that would not happen in a million years. I think there might be some compromise about gender-identity disorder," he said.

Dr. Frederick Berlin, founder of the Sexual Disorders Clinic at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, said people who are sexually attracted to children should learn not to feel ashamed of their condition.

"I have no problem accepting the fact that someone, through no fault of his own, is attracted to children. But certainly, such an individual has a responsibility...not to act on it," Berlin said.

"Many of these people need help in not acting on these very intense desires in the same way that a drug addict or alcoholic may need help. Again, we don't for the most part blame someone these days for their alcoholism; we don't see it simply as a moral weakness," he added.

"We do believe that these people have a disease or a disorder, but we also recognize that in having it that it impairs their function, that it causes them suffering that they need to turn for help," Berlin said.

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1 posted on 06/11/2003 2:18:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
The lunatics do indeed run the asylum.
2 posted on 06/11/2003 2:27:26 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (The EU will break up any day, but the USA is here to stay!)
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To: kattracks
In other words if you don't like the fact that you are mentally ill you can protest the APA (homosexuality 1973) and have it taken off.

That doesn't mean that they are not mentally ill. Homosexuals are still mentally ill.
3 posted on 06/11/2003 2:28:08 AM PDT by kuma
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To: Smile-n-Win
Kiddie Perverts are the next great civil rights cause.
4 posted on 06/11/2003 2:29:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Not going to happen...no way,no how~!!
5 posted on 06/11/2003 2:31:27 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: goldstategop
Then those oppressed Psychopathic-Homicidal Americans will be next.

"Hey, I like to have sex with fresh human corpses, don't tread on me motha!"
6 posted on 06/11/2003 2:34:02 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: kattracks
Isn't this argument exactly what Rick Santorum anticipated?
7 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:15 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: kattracks
Chickenhawks need love too. Then killing.
8 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:40 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: kattracks
Again, we don't for the most part blame someone these days for their alcoholism; we don't see it simply as a moral weakness," he added.

"We do believe that these people have a disease or a disorder, but we also recognize that in having it that it impairs their function, that it causes them suffering that they need to turn for help," Berlin said.

This guy is still a do-gooder, but at least he recognizes the fact that "doing good" does not necessarily have to entail helping bad people violate others' rights.

9 posted on 06/11/2003 2:48:09 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (The EU will break up any day, but the USA is here to stay!)
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To: Smile-n-Win
Liberals don't believe in objective standards of right and wrong. I mean if adultery and perjury is ok... why not embrace pederasty? Indeed its not like they have a basis to argue against not sanctioning it other than a vague feeling the time's not right yet for it to gain public acceptance.
10 posted on 06/11/2003 2:51:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks
Does this come as a great surprise to anyone? As soon as we started seeing NAMBLA being defended as a legitimate organization, the handwriting was on the wall. What's next, proclaiming that children really have no rights because they are net yet deemed to be persons before the age of consent? We'd better beware the fate of Sodom.

" It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." (Luke 17:2)

"Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:10)

11 posted on 06/11/2003 2:59:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: kattracks
"Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness - including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)."

And the trend continues to make all those exhibiting abhorrent mental disorders as normal.

The quality of life slides deeper into the mire.

Common cents? [sense] Why it's a penny, of course.

12 posted on 06/11/2003 3:16:05 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: kattracks
Psychiatry is not a science, it's an agenda
13 posted on 06/11/2003 3:20:29 AM PDT by mict42
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To: G.Mason
>>And the trend continues to make all those exhibiting abhorrent mental disorders as normal.

Worse, if you question it, you're immediately labelled as a Neanderthal Nazi. Try it sometime.
14 posted on 06/11/2003 3:43:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco

Wonder how they picked that city.

15 posted on 06/11/2003 3:46:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
San Faggotsco? Somehow it seems a fitting place for the APA to lift the stigma from various categories of mental deviancy.
16 posted on 06/11/2003 3:47:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
You know, you put bluntly exactly what happens. People become desensitized to what is and then the aberration is racheted up a knotch to allow the acceptance of a further crime and pedophilia is a crime against children. This disorder has an aggressor and a victim so it is not a mutually agreed to activity. Perhaps the psychiatric association counts among it's members a number of persons who practice or would like to practice pedophilia. Any normal person who has and loves helpless little children could never accept this crime against them. I am a trained RN..I was molested as a child by a stranger in our home..He was certainly not mentally ill..He was a respected member of the community and a talented, skilled professional person. I told my Mother and she saw to it that he was booted out never to return..He dropped dead at the age of 52 but God only knows how many children he molested who did not having loving mothers to turn to. During my clinical psychiatric nurses training, I saw hospitalized children who had suffered molestation and it was HEART BREAKING. This Association is not anything if not EVIL. I get more and more upset as I think about this. Our freedoms absolutely must draw a line somewhere. We are NOTHING in this nation if we do not protect our children!!
17 posted on 06/11/2003 3:56:52 AM PDT by jazzlite
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To: kattracks
"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

Satan is at work in these people. This is outrageous.

18 posted on 06/11/2003 4:08:25 AM PDT by gcraig
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To: kattracks
Every last one of these f***ing nutcases should be locked in a crazy ward.
19 posted on 06/11/2003 4:09:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE D)
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To: gcraig
"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

I missed this line. I don't believe in Satan per se, but evil is widely-spread and ingrained in our society.

20 posted on 06/11/2003 4:11:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE D)
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