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IRAQ: Weapons of Mass Disappearance - (Where are the WMD? Manipulation to go to War? )
time ^ | Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003 | MICHAEL DUFFY

Posted on 06/01/2003 9:01:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weapons of Mass Disappearance
The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong — or manipulated? 
By MICHAEL DUFFY


LYNSEY ADDARIO/CORBIS FOR TIME
Soldiers of the 25th Infantry rummage through a bombed-out house in Mosel looking for weapons
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Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003
How do take your country to war when it doesn't really want to go? You could subcontract with another nation, fight on the sly and hope no one notices. But if you need a lot of troops to prevail and you would like to remind everyone in the neighborhood who's boss anyway, then what you need most is a good reason — something to stir up the folks back home.

As the U.S. prepared to go to war in Iraq last winter, the most compelling reason advanced by George W. Bush to justify a new kind of pre-emptive war was that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear, chemical and biological arms — weapons of mass destruction (wmd). "There's no doubt in my mind but that they currently have chemical and biological weapons," said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in January. "We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons," said Vice President Dick Cheney in March. That Iraq might have WMD was never the only reason the Bush Administration wanted to topple Saddam. But it was the big reason, the casus belli, the public rationale peddled over and over to persuade a skeptical nation, suspicious allies and a hostile United Nations to get behind the controversial invasion. And while that sales pitch fell flat overseas, it worked better than expected at home: by late March, 77% of the public felt that invading U.S. troops would find WMD.

But eight weeks after the war's end, most of that confident intelligence has yet to pan out, and a growing number of experts think it never will. Current and former U.S. officials have begun to question whether the weapons will ever be found in anything like the quantities the U.S. suggested before the war — if found at all — and whether the U.S. gamed the intelligence to justify the invasion. For now, WMD seems to stand for weapons of mass disappearance. Smarting from the accusations that they had cooked the books, top U.S. officials fanned out late last week to say the hunt would go on and the weapons would eventually be found. CIA officials told TIME that they would produce a round of fresh evidence for increasingly wary lawmakers as early as next week. After dispatching dozens of G.I. patrols to some 300 suspected WMD sites in Iraq over the past two months, only to come up empty-handed, the Pentagon announced last week that it will shift from hunting for banned weapons to hunting for documents and people who might be able to say where banned weapons are — or were. But it is clear that the U.S. is running out of good leads. "We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad," Lieut. General James T. Conway, commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said last week. "But they're simply not there."

Wherever they are, the missing weapons are beginning to cause trouble elsewhere. Overseas, British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under fire from critics for overstating the case for war. The accusations came at an awkward moment for Bush, as he began a seven-day diplomatic trip to smooth over relations in Europe and seek peace in the Middle East. Moreover, mistrust about the Iraqi intelligence was growing just as the Administration began to make a similar case against Iran. In order to defend the credibility of his agency, CIA Director George Tenet took the unusual step of issuing a statement last Friday dismissing suggestions that the CIA politicized its intelligence. "Our role is to call it like we see it, to tell policymakers what we know, what we don't know, what we think and what we base it on. That's the code we live by." Asked to translate, an intelligence official explained that if there was a breakdown on the Bush team, it wasn't at the agency. "There's one issue in terms of collecting and analyzing intelligence," he said. "Another issue is what policymakers do with that information. That's their prerogative."



One of the oldest secrets of the secret world is that intelligence work involves as much art as science. While it is difficult, dangerous and expensive to snoop on our enemies with satellite cameras, hidden bugs and old-fashioned dead drops, knowing what all that information really means is the true skill of intelligence work. The information is often so disparate and scattershot that it amounts to little without interpretation.

And interpretation has long been the speciality of the hard-liners who fill so many key foreign-policy posts in the Bush Administration. Unlike his father, who ran the CIA briefly in the mid-'70s and prided himself on revitalizing an embattled spy corps, George W. Bush dotted his foreign-policy team with people who have waged a private war with the CIA for years, men who are disdainful of the way the agency gathers secrets — and what it makes of them. Working mainly out of the Pentagon, the hard-liners have long believed that America's spy agency was a complacent captive of the two parties' internationalist wings, too wary and risk averse, too reliant on gadgets and too slow to see enemies poised to strike.

Two Bush aides in particular, Rumsfeld and his Pentagon deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, have a long record of questioning the assumptions, methods and conclusions of the cia. Wolfowitz was a member of the famous B Team, created in the mid-'70s by the cia, then headed by Bush's father, to double-check the work of the cia's line analysts about the military strength of the Soviet Union. Filled with many hard-liners who now work in the younger Bush's Administration, the B Team was spoiling back then for bigger defense budgets and a more aggressive foreign policy. It found many of the cia's conclusions about the Soviet Union softheaded and naive. Its final report helped launch the Reagan-era defense buildup of the 1980s. Rumsfeld also chaired a bipartisan commission in 1998 set up by Congress to assess the pace of rogue states' missile efforts, which concluded that the cia wouldn't be able to gather intelligence quickly enough to meet the unseen threats posed by Iran, Iraq and North Korea. That dire prediction — reinforced by a North Korean missile launch a month later — turbocharged the nation's push to build a $100 billion missile shield, now under construction.

The hard-liners' staunch beliefs were powerfully bolstered after 9/11; they quickly concluded that the CIA failed to anticipate the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. And they were not reassured by the CIA's performance after 9/11 either. By last fall, Rumsfeld had grown so impatient with the CIA's equivocal explanations of the Iraq problem that he set up his own mini-CIA at the Pentagon called the Office of Special Plans. It was hatched and designed, as a former U.S. official puts it, to get "the intelligence he wanted."

Several current and former military officers who saw all the relevant data through this spring charge that the Pentagon took the raw data from the CIA and consistently overinterpreted the threat posed by Iraq's stockpiles. "There was a predisposition in this Administration to assume the worst about Saddam," a senior military officer told Time. This official, recently retired, was deeply involved in planning the war with Iraq but left the service after concluding that the U.S. was going to war based on bum intelligence. "They were inclined to see and interpret evidence a particular way to support a very deeply held conviction," the officer says. "I just think they felt there needed to be some sort of rallying point for the American people. I think they said it sincerely, but I also think that at the end of the day, we'll find out their interpretations of the intelligence were wrong." Another official, an Army intelligence officer, singled out Rumsfeld for massaging the facts. "Rumsfeld was deeply, almost pathologically distorting the intelligence," says the officer. Rumsfeld told a radio audience last week that the "war was not waged under any false pretense." And an aide flat-out rejects the idea that intelligence was hyped to support the invasion. "We'd disagree very strongly with that," said Victoria Clarke, the chief Pentagon spokeswoman.

Over the past two weeks, TIME has interviewed several dozen current and former intelligence officials and experts at the Pentagon and cia and on Capitol Hill to try to understand how the public version of the intelligence got so far ahead of the evidence. The reporting suggests that from the start the process was more deductive than empirical. According to these officials, three factors were at work: 





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Learned about this from the Drudge Report. The Time system seems to be overloaded this morning! Graphics not loading at all for me!
1 posted on 06/01/2003 9:01:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; MeeknMing; Pokey78; MizSterious
REPORTED BY PERRY BACON JR., TIMOTHY J. BURGER, JAMES CARNEY, JOHN F. DICKERSON AND MARK THOMPSON/WASHINGTON AND J.F.O. MCALLISTER/LONDON

Guests of honor at the upcoming Crow feast.

2 posted on 06/01/2003 9:06:26 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, we're ridding the world of vermin. RATs are next!!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Right On pardner!

This is a much more reasoned piece that those coming out of the UK though!

3 posted on 06/01/2003 9:07:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The U.S. does appear to have one solid argument on its side:

The biggest argument is that Saddam would not let inspectors have unrestricted access, within the terms of the agreement, to his sites and materials. He was hiding something, and everybody knows it. With his stalling, he probably managed to get much of it out of the country, but I'd bet the large underground compounds that have been discovered (and are still being investigated - by robots, because they're booby-trapped) are going to turn up some interesting stuff.

Bush/Blair et al. would not have lied about or exaggerated this because the risk would have been just too great. The stuff is out there, I'm sure we'll find it or track it to wherever it was sent.

And as for adopting the worst case scenario, what's wrong with that? In dealing with an unstable dictator who could take out a large part of his region upon a mere whim, going for the worst case seems, to me, to be the most prudent thing to do.

4 posted on 06/01/2003 9:14:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: BOBTHENAILER
REPORTED BY PERRY BACON JR., TIMOTHY J. BURGER, JAMES CARNEY, JOHN F. DICKERSON AND MARK THOMPSON/WASHINGTON AND J.F.O. MCALLISTER/LONDON

Guests of honor at the upcoming Crow feast.




5 posted on 06/01/2003 9:18:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Guests of honor at the upcoming Crow feast.

Seems like I heard that sort of statement over and over during the whole period leading up to, and then during, the war. No crow feast yet. If it comes, it may well end up being a real suprise to those who end up attending it. If there are any cards waiting to be played, it's time to show them. Not doing so will leave me feeling like I've been lied to, manipulated, and conned.

6 posted on 06/01/2003 9:19:35 AM PDT by templar
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7 posted on 06/01/2003 9:20:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: MeeknMing
ROFLMAO !!!
8 posted on 06/01/2003 9:21:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: livius
The biggest argument is that Saddam would not let inspectors have unrestricted access, within the terms of the agreement, to his sites and materials. He was hiding something, and everybody knows it. With his stalling, he probably managed to get much of it out of the country, but I'd bet the large underground compounds that have been discovered (and are still being investigated - by robots, because they're booby-trapped) are going to turn up some interesting stuff.

Saddam has played a huge game of deception with us. Deception is very highly valued as an Islamic war tactic. But no way is his crew 100% efficient. We'll find stuff but it'll take a while. No way are his idiots organized enough to do a job that's any better than 75% thorough. His regime was full of bumbling Baghdad Bob types. You don't get perfection from such types.

We'll slowly but surely debrief/interrogate the right people and find the WMD we want to find.

9 posted on 06/01/2003 9:24:06 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: templar
Not doing so will leave me feeling like I've been lied to, manipulated, and conned.

Being a bit impatient aren't you?

Saddam only had 12 years to develop and hide stuff!

And he was certainly evasive !

Are you saying he had nothing to hide?

10 posted on 06/01/2003 9:24:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: livius; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; yall
I have NO doubt you are correct there!

I think eventually Bush will be exonerated when the facts come out, yet (of course) the media will not be so adamant as they are in some of the article coming out here recently. Hardly a mention of credit will be given by the lamestream media I would bet.

11 posted on 06/01/2003 9:28:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: templar
If Saddam didn't have anything to hide, why didn't he invite the inspector back in with FULL access?

Saddam has used chemicals on Iraqi citizens, many, many times during his 30 year rein.

When Tony Blair said to the UN that it wasn't in disupte Saddam had WMD but only what to do about it, you could have heard a pin drop and NOT ONE national leader stood up and said Saddam DIDN'T have WMD. Everyone knows he had them at one point.

All the dithering around for months gave Saddam ample time to transfer them to another nation or sell them to terrorists.

Human rights organizations have witnessed the use of WMD on Iraqi people.

NYT author Judith Miller and many, many others have written books and seen the chemical factories about this very subject. We have satellite photos of previous use and storage and manufacturing.

12 posted on 06/01/2003 9:30:47 AM PDT by Peach
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To: livius
And as for adopting the worst case scenario, what's wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is that it puts you at risk for committing mass murder. Now if you are a sociopath, that might not be a problem, but for honorable people, that is a big problem.

If the WMD story was an intentional lie (or intentional spin, to use the modern word) then the blood of the thousands of dead from the Iraqi war is on this administration's hands. Notice I do not say our hands, we (US citizens) are not all responsible for this debacle, but everyone that helped it along without duress is at least partially responsible. Of course, those who perpetrated the lie are fully responsible.

What is happening now is the slow realization by Americans that there are no WMDs. The probability increases with every passing day without finding anything and the acceptance of the horrible fact is slowing speading among the people. How can this not hurt Bush's prospects for re-election? What were they thinking?

13 posted on 06/01/2003 9:31:48 AM PDT by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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To: dennisw
bumpity! bumpity!

Thanks.

14 posted on 06/01/2003 9:32:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If one cuts through the BS -- such as the unnamed sources who (if they exist) have obvious axes to grind against the Bush Administration (or Republicans or conservatives generally), or the selective quotes from people who will never understand that evil exists in the world and that we are not immune from another 9/11 -- the point of this article seems to be that at least some of the intelligence was ambiguous about the nature and extent of the WMD threat. The article doesn't claim that the threat unambiguously did not exist. No one has claimed that, either before or after the Iraq war.

Well, if at least some of the intelligence is ambiguous, then shoudn't the President, in interpreting the intelligence, be assuming the worst (and reacting accordingly) rather than hoping for the best? When the consequences of error -- of understimating the threat posed by WMDs in the hands of terrorists supplied by Saddam's regime (including Saddam's regime itself, which was a terrorist organization in its own right) -- include another 9/11 (or worse), shouldn't the margin of error be very small? Shouldn't the President err on the side of protecting national security rather than leaving it at greater risk? Why doesn't this article ask this rather obvious question, which would put this entire issue in its proper perspective?

15 posted on 06/01/2003 9:34:24 AM PDT by kesg
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To: Mike4Freedom
It was been well documented by the UN and other human rights organizations that Saddam regularly killed as many as 5,000 of his own citizens PER MONTH. The Red Cross reported last week they thought approx. 1,800 Iraqi civilians had been killed in the war. Do the math on that one.

Further, you can't honestly believe Saddam didn't have WMD can you? He's used them to kill untold civilians during his 30 year rein. Watch a few History Channel shows about his subject. Read a few books out of the 100's about this subject.

No right thinking person honestly believes Saddam didn't have WMD. The only difference of opinion among the Security Council was what to do about them. Not whether or not he had them.

16 posted on 06/01/2003 9:34:42 AM PDT by Peach
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To: livius
The biggest argument is that Saddam would not let inspectors have unrestricted access, within the terms of the agreement, to his sites and materials. He was hiding something, and everybody knows it.

Exactly. Saddam acted like he was guilty as charged and was trying to hide this fact, not like a man who is innocent and has nothing to hide -- despite the fact that his regime's very survival was at stake and depended upon his full and proactive cooperation with the UN inspectors.

17 posted on 06/01/2003 9:37:38 AM PDT by kesg
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The clymers were willing to give the UN inspectors months if not years.
Now they want the evidence yesterday.
18 posted on 06/01/2003 9:37:40 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
hehe!


19 posted on 06/01/2003 9:42:43 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Semper Paratus
WE have Clymers right here in the FreeRepublic village!
20 posted on 06/01/2003 9:43:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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