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To: livius
And as for adopting the worst case scenario, what's wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is that it puts you at risk for committing mass murder. Now if you are a sociopath, that might not be a problem, but for honorable people, that is a big problem.

If the WMD story was an intentional lie (or intentional spin, to use the modern word) then the blood of the thousands of dead from the Iraqi war is on this administration's hands. Notice I do not say our hands, we (US citizens) are not all responsible for this debacle, but everyone that helped it along without duress is at least partially responsible. Of course, those who perpetrated the lie are fully responsible.

What is happening now is the slow realization by Americans that there are no WMDs. The probability increases with every passing day without finding anything and the acceptance of the horrible fact is slowing speading among the people. How can this not hurt Bush's prospects for re-election? What were they thinking?

13 posted on 06/01/2003 9:31:48 AM PDT by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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To: Mike4Freedom
It was been well documented by the UN and other human rights organizations that Saddam regularly killed as many as 5,000 of his own citizens PER MONTH. The Red Cross reported last week they thought approx. 1,800 Iraqi civilians had been killed in the war. Do the math on that one.

Further, you can't honestly believe Saddam didn't have WMD can you? He's used them to kill untold civilians during his 30 year rein. Watch a few History Channel shows about his subject. Read a few books out of the 100's about this subject.

No right thinking person honestly believes Saddam didn't have WMD. The only difference of opinion among the Security Council was what to do about them. Not whether or not he had them.

16 posted on 06/01/2003 9:34:42 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Mike4Freedom
If the WMD story was an intentional lie (or intentional spin, to use the modern word) then the blood of the thousands of dead from the Iraqi war is on this administration's hands

The Washington Post and George Will and the NYT, among others, regularly reported Saddam killed approximately 5,000 of his own people each month. We kill approx. 1,800 civilians in collateral damage to free these people from this barbarian. It takes great ignorance to claim this administration will have the blood of innocent Iraqis on its hands.

The people with blood on their hands are the appeasers who allowed it to happen for so long - included in that is the UN of course and their oil for food program, and the left who never met a dictator they didn't like.

22 posted on 06/01/2003 9:44:52 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Mike4Freedom
we (US citizens) are not all responsible for this debacle

I accept full responsibility for the liberation of Iraq.

52 posted on 06/01/2003 10:14:46 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Mike4Freedom
What is happening now is the slow realization by Americans that there are no WMDs.

Well, no, that's not what's happening. As for your "mass murder" fear, that was exactly what we were trying to avoid. Taking the worst case scenario with Hitler would have saved millions of lives, and we'll never know how many lives were saved by taking the worst case scenario with Saddam.

159 posted on 06/01/2003 12:18:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: Mike4Freedom
Bush Plays Down Banned Weapons Hunt in Iraq

"We've discovered a weapons system -- biological labs that Iraq denied she had and labs that were prohibited under the U.N. resolutions," President Bush told reporters after talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

SNIP

Bush was noncommittal about Russia's future role in the Iraqi oil sector.

"Russia has had a long history of involvement in Iraq, and the Iraqi authorities, when they are firmly in place, will make the decision based upon that experience and based upon their country's best interests," Bush said.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030601_283.html


200 posted on 06/01/2003 12:54:43 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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