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TSA wrecks Texas caribou hunters meat
The Anchorage Daily News ^ | May 31st | Craig Medred

Posted on 05/31/2003 9:23:39 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector

Alaska caribou hunter is livid after airport security damages meat U.S. Transportation Security Administration is investigating

By CRAIG MEDRED Anchorage Daily News

(Published: May 31, 2003)

Caribou hunter David Williams arrived home in Houston, Texas, from an Alaska adventure in March to find a nasty surprise from the U.S. Transportation Security Administration.

When Williams cut open the strapping tape holding shut the first of two wet-lock boxes full of carefully handled, carefully packaged caribou roasts, steaks and burger, he found inside a mess and a preprinted form from the TSA informing him his airline baggage had been "inspected.''

The inspection, in this case, involved slicing open 45 packages of caribou double-wrapped in freezer paper and marked "roast,'' "backstrap'' and "caribou hamburger.''

Two months later, Williams is still mad about it.

"This baggage inspection was not done in my presence,'' he said. "Therefore I don't know if the meat was stacked on the floor during the 'prohibited item search.' Was any of it swabbed by chemicals for explosive detection? Did any bomb-sniffing dogs lick the caribou meat? Did the TSA inspectors wear new, previously unused rubber latex gloves while handling our tenderloins, or had they just finished handling someone's dirty underwear?

''The value of this caribou meat is about $28 per pound, and we are afraid to eat it. Would you eat it?''

Appeals to the airlines that hauled the meat brought no response, Williams added. They said it's not their fault.

And the Houston hunter, a former Alaska lodge owner, has had trouble getting any response out of the TSA.

TSA Alaska director Ken Jarman on Friday said he had only recently heard about what happened and begun investigating. He is, he added, determined to get to the bottom of the incident. He said he was almost as shocked as Williams at what happened.

"I'm a hunter and fisherman, too,'' Jarman said.

Cutting open packaged game meat or fish is against both TSA policy and procedure, he added.

Baggage inspectors on the X-ray line in Anchorage aren't even allowed to slice packages open if the alarm goes off on a bag there, he said. And in Kenai, where there is no X-ray, baggage checkers hand-inspecting bags are supposed to pass fish and game meat -- not cut it up.

"I feel badly about this,'' Jarman said. "It is under investigation. We are looking into it.''

He also offered assurances to the many anglers now beginning to ship fish south from Alaska that they shouldn't have to worry about the sort of bad experience endured by Williams, who has cooled down somewhat from the day he opened the first meat box in his garage.

"I opened the first box, and that was the first time I knew anything because they had retaped the box,'' he said. "I was irate. I was glad I couldn't get a hold of somebody when I opened that box. I had to cool down before I did anything I was so upset.''

Williams suspects the meat-slashing took place at the Kenai airport, where he first boarded a commercial flight upon returning from a caribou hunt in the Iliamna area. He was participating in a special winter hunt the state Board of Game established several years ago to try to trim the growing Mulchatna caribou herd before it overtaxes its range.

Williams said he was glad to have the opportunity.

Going to Alaska to hunt and fish, he said, "is my favorite thing to do. I don't bowl. I don't play golf. We usually go up in June and again in July. I went up early to get a caribou. I hadn't been up in winter in a long time, and we were out of meat.''

Williams said he plans to come back soon to fish, even though the March trip left him angry. Mainly, he said, he wants the government to get the baggage-inspection system fixed in Alaska. He has, he said, shipped meat and fish through major airports across the country and never had a problem like this.

"I'm trying to make a little stink about it,'' Williams admitted. "If nobody says anything, it just gets worse.

"Something needs to be changed so all of that stuff is scanned and not cut open. I have taken meat through the Houston airport and asked that it be scanned, and it has passed perfectly through a scanner.''

Similar scanners, Jarman said, are now being used for everything in Anchorage. And he's trying to get scanners for Kenai. Inspectors there, at the moment, are still hand-inspecting, but they are not supposed to slice anything open.

Williams wonders about that.

"The government doesn't have any customer service,'' he said.

Jarman, however, assured that the TSA in Alaska will try to act like it does.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 911; airportsecurity; alaska; hunting; terrorism; texas; tsa
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To: El Gato
What state ?
81 posted on 06/01/2003 11:45:29 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Squantos
Nebraska for certain, probably others. The article I read about it in was in the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission's "NebraskaLand", IIRC, which made it before 9-11, because my subscription to that ran out before then. These were muliti-agency stops, even though the "reason" for the stop was a games laws thing. Saw DEA and ATF jackets in the background of some of the photos, again IIRC.



82 posted on 06/01/2003 12:10:12 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: ContentiousObjector
"I'm a hunter and fisherman, too,'' Jarman said. Cutting open packaged game meat or fish is against both TSA policy and procedure, he added.

Jarman just opened the TSA to a lawsuit.

Certainly there are far larger issues to worry about than a bunch of Caribou meat that has been contaminated by idiot TSA workers - BUT - I certainly can understand how totally mad I would be if this were my meat.

The exact reason that all this "Homeland Security" mess is a danger to our freedom is the FACT that the power WILL be abused.

I have an idea - as I don't want my tax dollars going to this guy - I say make the TSA workers on duty that day pay the man for his ruined meat. Maybe even force them to pay for another hunting trip.

83 posted on 06/01/2003 12:21:04 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: El Gato; Travis McGee; AAABEST; Joe Brower; Jeff Head; SLB
Haven't seen such down my way....guess it's coming. I believe there are certain flavors of state officials such as a game wardens or fruit fly Barney Fifes that can stop you without probable cause and the alphabet agencies are playing on such. Especially if the BatFagie's and FiBi's were in the background.

Bend , fold, manipulate, grind , shred and flush.......spray a bit of air freshner and call it a day ! New lessons taught at the FLETC-DOJ school for that nasty form of constitutional constipation .

Stay Safe !

84 posted on 06/01/2003 12:24:54 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Electron Wizard
I hated reading your post - because it just verified everything that most of us have suspected for quite some time about the TSA and "anti-terrorism" efforts (using the term rather loosely).
85 posted on 06/01/2003 12:28:53 PM PDT by TheBattman (Big Brother is closer than you would like to know......)
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To: lone star annie
Flying out of L.A. just recently, I had the pleasure of having a surly TSA agent paw through my carefully-packed luggage. She was so stupid that she couldn't figure out how to get everything back in, and when I tried to describe to her how to put it back in (she was mauling my underwire bras, which really irriated me) she said to me, in a nasty voice, "This is the part of my job that I hate." I felt like telling her how much I hated having a mental midget like her go through my luggage, but I held my tongue. She finally walked away, and a more competent colleague managed to repack it.

Funny, when flying out of Frankfurt, Germany, we did not have the same luggage-mauling experience. What I have yet to figure out is why they don't have to maul your luggage in Europe, but they do have to maul your luggage here.

I'm convinced that the reasoning has nothing whatever to do with safety, and everthing to do with turning us into cowering little sheep.
86 posted on 06/01/2003 12:28:53 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: 4Freedom
When I have deer processed into burger, I have them add bacon before they grind it. It adds fat...and nitrates. Ya' think?
87 posted on 06/01/2003 1:15:01 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: 4Freedom
Leave your fancy propane burning cigar and pipe lighting torches at home and don't buy one on vacation. They won't allow those even in your checked baggage. Those things cost $30 to as much as $400 and TSA will make a passenger surrender it. I saw one guy almost go nuts when TSA confiscated his $400 torch. At least they left him his cigars. ;)

Can they be mailed, sans fuel?

88 posted on 06/01/2003 1:26:07 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Henrietta
I'm convinced that the reasoning has nothing whatever to do with safety, and everthing to do with turning us into cowering little sheep.

That, and to nationalize the airlines after they inevitably go out of business.

An it IS inevitable. How long do you think McDonalds' would stay in business if the feds required them (at their own expense) to pat down customers and instruct them to take their shoes off and empty their purses before eating lunch?

The feds, of course, will claim that "The free market has failed".

89 posted on 06/01/2003 1:27:04 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: 4Freedom
The _Jackboot says it's impossible.
90 posted on 06/01/2003 1:33:34 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: ContentiousObjector
Cutting open packaged game meat or fish is against both TSA policy and procedure, he added.

Goodness, how could this have happened then? TSA idiots hiring idiots. RTF memo, people!

91 posted on 06/01/2003 4:08:30 PM PDT by hattend
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To: ContentiousObjector
''The value of this caribou meat is about $28 per pound, and we are afraid to eat it. Would you eat it?''

If that's all there was, sure. Seems a long way to go for some dry, stringy meat.

92 posted on 06/01/2003 4:12:12 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: ContentiousObjector
''The value of this caribou meat is about $28 per pound, and we are afraid to eat it. Would you eat it?''

What could they do to it. Of course eat it. What an idiot. And what does this guy think they are supposed to do, just take his word for it that its a gourmet roast inside. In case he has not heard, there is a war on. He should have been preparred for the possibility his meat would be inspected.

93 posted on 06/01/2003 4:14:20 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
He should have been prepared for the possibility his meat would be inspected.

Don't know why he would think that:

From the article:
"Cutting open packaged game meat or fish is against both TSA policy and procedure, he added."

94 posted on 06/01/2003 4:54:35 PM PDT by hattend
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To: BJungNan
Your position might be reasonable if it were not for the fact the TSA can't find their ass with both hands. There is no evidence this TSA activity, nor any other, has any positive impact on security.
95 posted on 06/01/2003 5:41:03 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Trust but Verify
Let's just all ignore the fact that this was one screener who was going against TSA rules in manhandling this man's caribour(sic).

And one cop is just out killing folks and the Department does nothing.

One Doctor is killing folks and the hospital does nothing.

Do you want me to keep going or do you want to retract your statement??

96 posted on 06/01/2003 6:37:29 PM PDT by Eaker (84,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
That was my first thought also, some PETA/vegan making a statement for the "cause". Should find out who did this and prosecute them for terroristic acts, hooliganism, destruction of property, theft and any thing else they can think of.
97 posted on 06/01/2003 7:51:17 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Impeach the 9th! Please!!)
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To: ContentiousObjector
If caribou meat is $28 a pound, maybe the economy could use a boost from increased drilling AND hunting in ANWAR.
98 posted on 06/01/2003 7:59:39 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Trust but Verify
My recollection is that when they announced they'd be breaking into checked baggage that happened to be locked, TSA would not be responsible for theft or damage. So... I guess they're following the rules on that.
99 posted on 06/01/2003 9:08:02 PM PDT by Indrid Cold
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To: buffyt
And that idiot who attacked the flight crew last week, I don't remember where, used two wooden steaks he had sharpened into weapons.

Now we know why they were inspecting the caribou steaks ....

100 posted on 06/01/2003 9:36:36 PM PDT by cinFLA
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