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One of Islam's greatest victories occured 550 years ago today when the last vestiges of the Roman Empire which had kept the Moslem hordes at bay for centuries was finally overrun.
1 posted on 05/28/2003 7:06:05 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
Is that about the same time Istanbul fell into Turkish hands?
3 posted on 05/28/2003 7:15:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Junior
The Byzantine Empire had been weaken by Islamic armies on the East and Catholic Christian armies on the West for several centuries. Its too bad the city had to fall to the Turks.
8 posted on 05/28/2003 7:19:59 AM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: Junior
History SPOTREP
11 posted on 05/28/2003 7:25:04 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Junior
sounded a lot like Helms Deep in The Two Towers.
17 posted on 05/28/2003 7:30:00 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Junior
The Greeks are still pretty hot over this.
18 posted on 05/28/2003 7:31:43 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Junior
Hospodi Pomilui - Lord Have Mercy!
24 posted on 05/28/2003 7:47:43 AM PDT by Theophilus
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To: Junior

Bronze Follis of Constantine I (307 A.D. - 337 A.D.) celebrating the founding of Constantinopolis.
30 posted on 05/28/2003 7:56:16 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Junior
The Janissaries were a force made up of captured Christian children, raised to become Muslim and despise their own people. Seems Muslim's can't even grow their own successful warriors.
41 posted on 05/28/2003 8:29:32 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Junior
Go ahead, celebrate the 500th anniversary of that, I'll celebrate the 50th anniversary of this:
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works
That's nobody's business but the Turks

Istanbul (Istanbul)
Istanbul (Istanbul)

"Istanbul" 1953

Words by Jimmy Kennedy
Music by Nat Simon

42 posted on 05/28/2003 8:34:50 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the conspiracy of inanimate objects!)
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To: sphinx; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; curmudgeonII; roderick; Notforprophet; river rat; csvset; ...
Byzantine Empire ping

If you want on or off the Western Civilization Military History ping list, let me know.
59 posted on 05/28/2003 10:28:30 AM PDT by Sparta
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To: Junior
Mehmed renamed the city Istanbul.

I thought that happened around 1920 under Attaturk.

61 posted on 05/28/2003 10:38:30 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: Junior
Interesting that the Muslims took Constantinople at around the same time they were getting thrown out of Spain.
63 posted on 05/28/2003 10:40:35 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: All
Here is a more detailed account of the fall of the city. It puts the actual time of the fall at after midnight on the 29th.

http://www.unf.edu/classes/byzantium/cached/fallofconstantinople.html
68 posted on 05/28/2003 11:11:54 AM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Junior
The Christians were still allowed to practice their religion,
 but had to dress in distinguishing attire and could not bare arms.


And that is why, to this day, only atheists wear short sleeves.
This was written by a University???
78 posted on 05/28/2003 12:56:15 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: Junior
Bump
81 posted on 05/28/2003 1:10:25 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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...and Timbuktu
84 posted on 05/28/2003 1:14:50 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: Junior
Bump!
91 posted on 05/28/2003 9:17:28 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: Junior
the last vestiges of the Roman Empire which had kept the Moslem hordes at bay for centuries was finally overrun.

Having been softened up by the Crusaders a couple centuries earlier. Rome got their way, and still do.

94 posted on 05/29/2003 9:36:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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