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Some mighty interesting stuff in here...if you're interested in this sort of thing. I am and I know soem other Freepers are too.
1 posted on 05/27/2003 3:49:55 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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*Anthropology Ping* (and tell all your Celtic friends...)
2 posted on 05/27/2003 3:54:45 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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Yes, it's an interesting article. And not all that surprising, really. The majority of the population at most times consisted of peasants and serfs, and there's no reason to think they would have all been killed or ousted when new conquerors moved in.

Some French historians of the annales school have pointed out that there's more continuity over the centuries when you look at peasants' huts and villages than there is in manors and castles, because invaders usually go after the manors and castles. The fighting takes place mainly within the fighting classes, which are the nobility and gentry. Peasants get killed, but there's no particular incentive to wipe them out as there would be with competing nobility.
3 posted on 05/27/2003 3:57:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Genetic SPOTREP
4 posted on 05/27/2003 4:02:56 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Wonderful!! More, please sir, more.
5 posted on 05/27/2003 4:04:40 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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The Celtic inhabitants of Britain were real survivors. Nowhere were they entirely replaced by the invaders and they survive in high proportions, often 50 percent or more, throughout the British Isles ...

Well of course they do.

Just Remember Andy Capp

He was never politically correct, but he sure was realistic.

So9

6 posted on 05/27/2003 4:06:57 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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Good article , thanks.

" In a study two years ago Dr. Goldstein and colleagues established that Y chromosomes of Celtic populations were almost identical with those of the Basques.

Is anyone suprised?

My favorite theory is that most Europeans are descendents of the refugees from the flood of the Black Sea (Noah's Flood?) in 5,600BC.
Linguists have traced the origins of all the Indo-European languages to that region. (Traced mainly through words used by farmers)

However, Cheddar Man does not fit into that scheme.

9 posted on 05/27/2003 4:21:15 PM PDT by blam
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Ancestry Of Europeans Traced To Middle East
10 posted on 05/27/2003 4:25:32 PM PDT by blam
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Looks to me like those Celtic men had the last laugh. It also looks like they had an (understandable) hankering for those Scandanavian babes.
11 posted on 05/27/2003 4:26:04 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Vote Democrat! Vote for national--and personal--suicide! It's like being a suicide bomber!)
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Archaeologists Find Celts In Unlikely Spot: Central Turkey
12 posted on 05/27/2003 4:28:11 PM PDT by blam
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Highly interesting and informative article. Please post more here, when you can.

I'd love to get my Y chromosomes tested.
13 posted on 05/27/2003 4:29:05 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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Unearthed: The Prince Of Stonehenge
15 posted on 05/27/2003 4:33:55 PM PDT by blam
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the Celtic-speaking men, since genetically very close to the Basques, must also be
drawn from the original Paleolithic inhabitants of Europe, and probably represent
the first modern human inhabitants of Britain who settled the islands some 10,000 years ago,


This is just great...now I not only have to live with the knowledge that I'm
an Okie...I'm even an aborigine, no matter how white I am...
(OK, I'm laughing as I type this...)
24 posted on 05/27/2003 6:49:44 PM PDT by VOA
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This is all beside the point, as in a few generations, all of the UK's Y chromosomes will be Pakistani or Jamaican
28 posted on 05/27/2003 7:18:17 PM PDT by quebecois
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Which ones were responsible for the poor dental hygiene?


35 posted on 11/29/2004 4:35:37 PM PST by Thom Pain
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Thanks Pharmboy for the topic. Thanks Blam for the ping.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

38 posted on 11/29/2004 9:52:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Started reading this article, and ended up with 13 tabs to various linked articles..
All sort of related stuff..
Thanks for an interesting read..
42 posted on 11/29/2004 10:56:47 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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ping.


48 posted on 11/30/2004 7:34:16 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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bookmarked


49 posted on 11/30/2004 7:44:08 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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I find this to be fascinating. I think I missed my true calling....studying genetics, tracing DNA, etc. It is really a study of human history.

I have traced my own ancestry back to the mid-1600's due to the strict church records kept by the Lutheran Church in Sweden. It is not as accurate as the study of DNA, but fascinating, nonetheless, to peek back at historical records that list names, titles, job descriptions, offspring, and sometimes a short narrative about the lives of ancestors.

English history is so interesting. About 15-20 years ago there was a program on TV called the "Story of English." It was a series of programs that studied the different cultures that have influenced this small island country over time. The program also explained that the English language is so rich because of the different languages that have been introduced throughout English history. Due to England's seafaring abilities and the strive to colonize, the English language was spread around the world. It is now the language of choice in the economic and social world, due mainly because of the language spoken in the country that started out as a group of English colonies....the United States.
52 posted on 11/30/2004 9:08:47 AM PST by Swede Girl
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How does this explain Prince Charles' elephant genes?


58 posted on 11/30/2004 7:32:38 PM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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