Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Miss a payment and your car may die
KFXO-TV ^ | 5/15/03

Posted on 05/24/2003 4:26:04 AM PDT by Dane

Miss a payment and your car may die

Imagine getting in your car and it won't start. The situation would be aggravating for most, but for hundreds of thousands of Americans it could simply mean their car payment is overdue. A growing number of car dealers are using starter stoppers technology to ensure you don't get lax on your loan.

Macy Pearson loves the used car she just bought, but it will only start if she's made her car payment. Nestled under her dash is a device called a starter interrupt system. If Macy doesn't pay, the device is set to disable her car so she can't drive.

Macy's salesman insisted she have it, since she has no credit history. Once Macy sends in her payment, she's given a code number to input into a remote that connects to a device underneath the dash. "I stick it right in here. You punch in your code, you hear another little chirp and you're done," explains Macy, as she easily connects the device that will allow her car to run for another week.

Mike Simon's company, Payment Protection Systems, made the device in Macy's car and some 60,000 others bought at corner used car lots and dealerships alike. He says the device protects dealers from credit risks. "The people know that they have to make their payment and they really do perform in making their payments on time," says Simon. "Our delinquency rate was probably up around ten to twenty percent without the device. And since then, it's dropped down below two percent," says car dealer Steve Matthews about using the device with costumers.

It may be good for dealers, but what about drivers. Not everyone's sold on the idea of no cash no dash. Jack Gillis of the Consumer Federation of America has written a book about buying a car. He says the devices could put customers at risk. "You might be in a situation where you are in an unsafe position, and you need to get out of there quickly, and you can't do it," says Gillis about the pitfalls of such a device.

But device makers say cars won't stop while in motion they just won't start once they're turned off. Even then, drivers like Macy can call their salesmen for an emergency code that is good for 24 hours. Dealers also insist everyone is told about the service before they buy, and device makers like Stan Schwarz says drivers are warned before the "kill."

Manufacturers say the technology can make the difference between getting a car and walking on foot for many. But critics say customers don’t always leave the car lot with a better price, or better financing if they have the device. It turns out cars may not be the only things fitted with those kill chips. Look for them to turn up in computers, air conditioners, and yes, even TV's.

Macy's no critic, she's grateful for the opportunity to buy a car and working hard to get a solid credit history started. To her, that device under her dash is a dose of discipline. "It really helps because it makes you pay on time."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-168 next last
To: DCPatriot
You are getting silly now.

Anyway this device is being installed by private car dealerships. Do you think the government should put a stop to this practice?

21 posted on 05/24/2003 5:21:08 AM PDT by Dane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: whereasandsoforth
"It gives me a creepy feeling."

Me too.
22 posted on 05/24/2003 5:23:31 AM PDT by Cynderbean (The only true knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Dane
No offense, but what a stupid, repulsive remark. Since I'm one of those "evil" capitalists, I can only assume that you're like one of my worker drones (you know, the kind I have a tendency to fire because they think that customers are there to serve them).

Start thinking before you spew on the keyboard.

23 posted on 05/24/2003 5:28:33 AM PDT by Archangelsk (" Why can't we pick out our own colors?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: whereasandsoforth
A little dramatic. Does the idea of someone's car being reposseessd also give you a "creepy feeling?"
24 posted on 05/24/2003 5:31:01 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Archangelsk
No offense, but what a stupid, repulsive remark. Since I'm one of those "evil" capitalists, I can only assume that you're like one of my worker drones (you know, the kind I have a tendency to fire because they think that customers are there to serve them)

LOL! You were the one who was complaining about large corporations monitoring you in your reply #11.

Again, the institutions applying this practice are private car dealerships, do you think that the government should put an end to this practice?

25 posted on 05/24/2003 5:32:12 AM PDT by Dane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Cynderbean
Actually the car is still mostly owned by the dealership, so the creepy thing is if they can't find creative ways to monitor their property. If you don't want to have property you use monitored, don't post collateral with it and don't take out a loan.

On the other hand, people should get a break in interest and fees if they use the device and repayment rates are so much higher.
26 posted on 05/24/2003 5:33:46 AM PDT by mongrel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I think my car is possessed, and that gives me a creepy feeling. Does that count? ;)
27 posted on 05/24/2003 5:34:09 AM PDT by general_re (When you step on the brakes, you're putting your life in your foot's hands...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot
This way, we can eliminate our expensive prison system. It gives a whole new meaning to "house arrest".

sarcasm aside, we already have ankle-bracelet systems that verify that you were home when you were supposed to be, in house-arrest systems.

The next stage is a GPS system for parolees that verifies that they are either home, work, or en-route between home and work, and that they at no point venture near drug corners or are at scenes of any crimes

28 posted on 05/24/2003 5:40:19 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: mongrel
I don't have that issue to worry about since my car was paid for in cash up front. No monthly payments to worry about and I own free and clear the title to my car. Not every one can do it of course but its a consideration if you don't want to get a "chipped" car from the dealer as part of the process acquiring the car over time from them.
29 posted on 05/24/2003 5:47:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Archangelsk
EXACTLY!!
my thoughts exactly..
30 posted on 05/24/2003 5:52:43 AM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mongrel
. . . people should get a break in interest and fees if they use the device and repayment rates are so much higher.

Buyers should get whatever deal they negotiate at the time of purchase. Let's keep the government out of this.

31 posted on 05/24/2003 6:04:00 AM PDT by toddst
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Dane
No, I don't think the government should get involved.

This only eliminates the unsavory work of the repo-man.

Hell, if they can turn off your phone, electric or water for non-payment, why not render the autombile useless until the payment is made?

32 posted on 05/24/2003 6:19:21 AM PDT by DCPatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Dane
Interesting. Can I get a gadget that locks the dealer's repair shop doors in case my car isn't really fixed?
33 posted on 05/24/2003 6:21:48 AM PDT by Grut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor
No, the next stage is GPS for all newborn infants. It's to,< cough >... protect the children, isn't it?

Stroke of a pen from that point to who the hell knows where?

34 posted on 05/24/2003 6:22:12 AM PDT by DCPatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Archangelsk
"In a truly free society we wouldn't need devices like these. Sorry, I don't want large corporations monitoring me."

You are truly free to build your own car.

35 posted on 05/24/2003 6:25:51 AM PDT by Henk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: toddst; mongrel
Buyers should get whatever deal they negotiate at the time of purchase.

If the market for used cars and used-car financing is open and competitive, one would expect that buyers would eventually tend pay less in interest and fees if the default rates for chipped-car purchases really were significantly lower. And if they don't eventually tend to pay less in interest and fees than buyers of non-chipped cars, it suggests that the market for used cars is not a competitive market - or that the chips aren't really reducing default rates - in which case the state has a legitimate interest in fostering competition.

36 posted on 05/24/2003 6:27:55 AM PDT by general_re (When you step on the brakes, you're putting your life in your foot's hands...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Dane
"I don't know what I don't like about this, but I don't. It gives me a creepy feeling. What next? Insurance runs out then you home respirator shuts down?"

Same here. This is ridiculous. It's an insult to the person who's giving their business to the dealership. Those dealerships who choose to implement such barbaric tactics will be wasted by the competition in the long run.

37 posted on 05/24/2003 6:36:25 AM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return ("'Irregardless' is not a word; irregardless of what you may think")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: general_re
Isn't there a movie about that?
38 posted on 05/24/2003 6:36:35 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I think it was Coma.
39 posted on 05/24/2003 6:37:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: KeyWest
If it becomes more universal look for the hackers to find a way to bypass it. So, as usual, it will hurt the law abiding and do nothing to the crook.

Amen.

40 posted on 05/24/2003 6:39:38 AM PDT by FourtySeven
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-168 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson