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Sexual Discrimination in Graduate School Admissions?
pure vanity
| 5/19/03
Posted on 05/19/2003 11:45:16 AM PDT by pabianice
The Tufts University School of Medicine just graduated 81 new DVMs in its class of 2003. Of the 81 graduates, 66 are women and 15 are men. This is the same badly skewed pattern I've observed for years at Tufts.
There can be only several possible explanations:
1. 4 times as many women as men apply to veterinary school
2. Women are 4 times as likely to make top marks in college and vet school aptitude tests
3. Once in vet school, men are 4 times as likely to flunk out or leave for other reasons
4. Tufts University is systematically and methodically discriminating against men who wish to become veterinarians
Of course, (4) would be unlawful and subject the school to felony convictions.
Have any other Freepers noticed a similar pattern in other vet/med schools?
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: discrimination; genderbias; highereducation; tufts
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:45:16 AM PDT
by
pabianice
To: pabianice
... that's Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine...
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:45:54 AM PDT
by
pabianice
To: pabianice
3
posted on
05/19/2003 11:49:17 AM PDT
by
milestogo
To: pabianice
Females dominate academia. It's typical that there are more females than males. They tend as a group to score better on exams and graduate.
As to why, look at how males are treated in lower education and you will find the answer. All your seeing is the result of that.
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:50:01 AM PDT
by
nmh
To: pabianice
Women are better at relating to animals then men. After all they look on them just like they look on babies. No wonder there's a gender gap in the veterinary profession.
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:50:55 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: pabianice
There are also many Lesbians (out of the closet) becoming Vets. We have some the Charlotte area.
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:53:10 AM PDT
by
morkfork
(Candygram for Mongo)
To: pabianice
Is this and agument for quotas?
Also more men are enrolled in and graduate from engineering schools. Does this signify discrimination against women in engineering?
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posted on
05/19/2003 11:54:03 AM PDT
by
Lorianne
To: pabianice
Another couple of factors (which some vet friends told me about) are that (1) veternary medicine doesn't pay all that well, except for large animal verternary medicine, and (2) most of the growth in the field has been small animal medicine. The demand for large animal vets is pretty stable, and concentrated in rural areas with significant agriculture industries. The growth in the demand for vets has mostly been for pet care in suburban and urban areas. These are areas where women's empathy for animals makes them often the vets of choice for petowners, and there is less need for the physical strength needed for large animal vets.
Most male vets, I would guess, graduate from vet schools out west and in the mid-west and south, where the argicultural schools and industries are more important.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:04:23 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: goldstategop
men are better surgeons though...
the answer is how males are being treated and taught by liberal males and liberal females in the grades right through college...
As this did not used to be the case 20 yrs ago...it is new phenomena...
ergo there must have been some sort of change in academia that is causal?
femanism/socialism/affirmative action/etc etc etc
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:06:28 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: pabianice
all of Americas instutions have been femanized...why wouldnt this one be
10
posted on
05/19/2003 12:07:19 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: joesnuffy
You mean womanned, right? LMAO
11
posted on
05/19/2003 12:09:26 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: pabianice
Whine, whine, whine.
Maybe it's just that the ladies work harder.
To: pabianice
SITREP
To: milestogo
The New Gender Gap is an excellent article for this poster to read. It sums it up far better than I.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:24:11 PM PDT
by
nmh
To: CatoRenasci
You friend must not be doing something right. Being a vet is a VERY lucrative occupation. When it comes to animals, or pets folks who love them will do nearly anything for them. Money is not the issue. Iwant my daughter to look into it when it is appropriate.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:26:27 PM PDT
by
nmh
To: nmh
Oh, my friends are doing well enough, thanks, they own their clinics. One, in a suburb, hires lots of young women vets whom he don't have to pay that much, because the supply of vets greatly exceeds the demand. The other had a very lucrative large animal practic out west. My father was a bacteriologist with the California Dept of Agriculture, and knew most of the vets in Northern California back 40-50 years ago, and I got to know quite a number of vets. Nice people, for the most part.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:37:18 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: pabianice
While I don't have the actual numbers, the University of Florida Veterinary School has a similar male/female ratio. From what I can see, women tend to go into small animal care while men are more likely to be preparing for careers with agricultural animals.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:48:57 PM PDT
by
caltrop
To: pabianice
"4 times as many women as men apply to veterinary school "
I'm just glad its not another article of men going to the dogs.
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posted on
05/19/2003 12:52:11 PM PDT
by
Courier
To: pabianice
Ask a ten-year-old girl what she wants to be when she grows up...I'm betting it's answer #1, mixed in with the fact that boys are increasingly overshadowed academically by girls. Never understood the discrimination thing in school--even in the Dark Ages when I was in public schools, girls almost always got all but a couple of math prizes...
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posted on
05/19/2003 1:04:52 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: pabianice
You missed the obvious answer: women are better able to commit the resources (time, money) to go to graduate school than men are, who are expected to work to support their families (and former families).
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