[Egregious Philbin]

According to Tony Snow, Bush was never AWOL. His unit never saw combat. This is a typical falsity the libs like to spread.

I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL. His unit may never have seen combat, but he was called up.

He was never punished, as a regular soldier would have been, and even got an “honorable” discharge.

This is the gulf between the wealthy and powerful and the average American citizen. It's a fault of Democrats (like the one from Tennessee) and Republicans. I don't think damning details like this should be swept under the rug. I was actually stunned to see Bush do the flight suit photo op, as all the dirt from his past will soon be dragged out.

[VRWCmember]

I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL.

And, like the documentation that algore's favorite Bible verse is John 16:3 (instead of John 3:16), and that hillary headed the defense of black panther murderers, and that the clintons' mortage in Chappaqua is being completely paid by the Secret Service in the form of its rent payment for the SS quarters in the residence, etc. -- all of these online documentations prove that it is easy to circulate an urban legend on the internet and have it widely regarded as "proven" fact.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Read my summary of Bush's flying; before you repeat your lies again.

There is NOTHING to hide there, you are simply repeating jealous democrat lies that come from previous democrat fax sheets.

And a democrat fax sheet isn't a "facts sheet."

[Cordova Belle]

Uh---Egregious... What part of this The Real Military Record of George W. Bush: Not Heroic, but Not AWOL, Either documentation didn't you understand?

Return to Post #47. Do not pass "GO" until you have read this.

[alnick]

This is the gulf between the wealthy and powerful and the average American citizen.

No, he wasn't punished for going AWOL because he didn't go AWOL.

[JudgemAll]

This is the gulf between the wealthy and powerful and the average American citizen.

I think you are confusing this with affirmative action.

The military men and sergeants never favored the rich kid, quite the contrary, they probably tried him harder. When life and military credentials are at stake, money is not the issue in the military. I do not know where you guys get this idea that poor kids are exploited or cannot succeed in the military. It is a patent lie.

[Trace21230]

"I was actually stunned to see Bush do the flight suit photo op, as all the dirt from his past will soon be dragged out."

Exactly what "dirt from his past" are you referring to?

Evidence and links would be nice, as opposed to unfounded, distasteful opinions.

My opinion is that if there were such "dirt" on Bush, the demorats would have plastered it everywhere by now.

But since you're making the charge, I'd like to see your proof.

Thanks

Trace

[cyncooper]

I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL. His unit may never have seen combat, but he was called up.

As I play catch-up reading, I realize someone else has probably asked, but I'll ask, too. Care to post this "documentation"?

There isn't any such thing. Why would you post a lie?

[cyncooper]

I was actually stunned to see Bush do the flight suit photo op, as all the dirt from his past will soon be dragged out.

This flight suit episode will put an end to the lies about "dirt" in his past.

Not by diversion, but by another examination of the record, which, with each go-round, shows the allegations made have been malicious lies.

[zip]

I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL.

DU isn't online documentation and you know it. Knock off the disruption crap.

[CyberAnt]

But ... Tony also said that Bush's unit was "combat ready" - they just didn't get called up.

[El Gato]

I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL. His unit may never have seen combat, but he was called up.

They do no such thing. It's not unusual for reservists/guardmen to change their active duty (For training!) dates after orders are submitted. They do have to be changed, but just because the site doesn't show the new orders, doesn't mean that there weren't any. In fact there have to have been, because the points record that the site does show indicates that Bush served several periods of active duty training around that time. In fact it shows he only missed the first 3 day period, 22-24 May, he has points for the other two 3 day periods indicated on the orders. The points accounting docment shows more active duty on July 2,3, and 5, an obvious make up for the 22-24 May dates, plus 9-12, 23-27 and 30 July active duty time. Additionally it shows Inactive duty training ('drill') for 23-24 June, 16-19 and 21-22 July, or 10 days worth (20 drills/points) You can't get the active duty point credit unless you submit both a copy of the orders putting you on active duty and signed documentation showing that you were present for that duty. The inactive duty training is handled by a single form, (Fm. 40, IIRC) with one place for advance approval, and a second attesting that the member was present for training. Now it's not unheard of for those "advance" approvals to be done at the same time as the other part, but they still have to be done by the appropriate unit personell. Units can handle their standard "drill weekends" by a single roster type document, which serves the same function as the individual member form. (All this is from memory and my memory of my ANG time is getting a little foggy, but the ANG and AF Reserve have pretty much the same procedures, because the requirements are federal and the accounting done by the Air Reserve Pesonnel Center. These days they may use the internet, probably do, as I'm always coming accross various reserve uint sites that have links to forms, such as orders requests, that I can't get to)

[MamaSwami]

Egregious...

re: "I believe there is documentation online that proves Bush was AWOL. His unit may never have seen combat, but he was called up."

There is documentation online that PURPORTS to "prove" that Bush was AWOL his last year. But the problem is that the files are very bad Xerox copies of old Xerox copies of old orders, and they're hard to actually read. I don't recall where I saw them online, but I read through them and found the particular place where the Libs claim Bush was AWOL.

There is a document showing a change in status that reads on one line; CHANGE "NO DAYS SERVED" 7 TO "NO DAYS SERVED" 9, or some numbers to that effect (I don't recall precisely what they were, but it doesn't matter).

This is being read by witchhunters as "no days". But when you study it closely, even in the online images you can see faded periods after "NO.". In other words, it translates to "number of days", not "no days".

This was just a VERY wreckless smear job done by someone so desperate to find a scandal that they didn't even wonder what the numbers "7" and "9" were for. What this document was for was to show that Bush had, indeed, shown up for another weekend, and his time was being recorded in this addendum to be added to his record.

But some rabid lunatic with NO experience in reading military orders (!!!) seized upon "no days" and made the mistake of running with it ;).