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Evangelicals' Anti-Islam Remarks Are Testament To Ignorance
UExpress ^ | May 9, 2003 | Georgie Anne Geyer

Posted on 05/10/2003 6:06:50 AM PDT by Seti 1

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To: Cindy
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61 posted on 05/10/2003 11:09:21 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Remedy
Reviewer: Newt Gingrich (see more about me) from Washington, DC United States

Is this really the former Speaker writing reviews for Amazon? It seems like it might be from the writing, but I wonder. Has the former Speaker ever mentioned that he posts reviews to Amazon?

ML/NJ

62 posted on 05/10/2003 11:29:38 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: SouthernFreebird
Franklin Graham spots Gerogie Anne Geyer about 50 IQ points. She is far more learned and thoughtful.
Re-read her article. She is not an Islamic fundalmentalist appologist, and her historic perspective is well informed.
63 posted on 05/10/2003 12:10:28 PM PDT by rightofrush (Not only Rush, but Buchanan as well.)
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To: LarryM
Georgie is an Arab shill. Every column she writes is an apologia for the Arabs and Islam.


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Christian-hating "liberals" like Geyer have found a natural ally in Islam -- whose followers not only hate Christians (and Jews), but do more than write about it (but use violence against Christians and Jews, to boot).
64 posted on 05/10/2003 12:21:13 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Geist Krieger
Historic fact: The Shephardic Jews weren't forced to leave Spain until the Christians took over in the 15th century.
65 posted on 05/10/2003 12:26:30 PM PDT by rightofrush (Not only Rush, but Buchanan as well.)
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To: rightofrush
Maybe, but only a fool would deny the fact that the Moors were quite capable of intolerant religious fanaticism themselves. Take a look at the Almohads or Almoravids. The Library of Cordova once had many of it's books burned for having been "un-Islamic". There were cases of religious persecution and forced conversions under the Moors.
66 posted on 05/10/2003 12:45:38 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (This post was sponsored by Del Monte's 100% All Natural, Organic Can of Whoop-A$$)
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To: rightofrush
Historic fact: The Shephardic Jews weren't forced to leave Spain until the Christians took over in the 15th century.

"Force," is and interesting word. My father's family wasn't forced to leave Germany either, but the ones who didn't died..

Go look up Maimonades' (RAMBAM) biography in an enclyclopedia.

ML/NJ

67 posted on 05/10/2003 1:17:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
newt.org - The Official Home Page of Speaker Newt Gingrich

Left side of screen, FIRST REVIEW below his picture.http://newt.org/index.php?src=news&submenu=books&prid=469&category=Book%20Reviews

68 posted on 05/10/2003 4:13:34 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Left side of screen, FIRST REVIEW below his picture...

Thanks.

ML/NJ

69 posted on 05/10/2003 5:50:50 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Seti 1
Third, it is becoming clear, in part through conferences such as the one here, that these spokesmen are becoming somewhat of an embarrassment to their flocks. Do evangelicals really want to appear to the world to be unschooled in the complicated histories of the great religions; to be seen as politically throwing their support to Ariel Sharon's expansionist policies on the West Bank? Do the masses of good, smart, cultured evangelical people really believe that Armageddon will be more moral than a Palestinian state?

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I get it! This wench is blaming the radicalization of Islam on evangelicals -- or, at least a worsening of it. This woman is defending Islam by blaming Christians.

70 posted on 05/10/2003 6:16:27 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: rightofrush
Franklin Graham spots Gerogie Anne Geyer about 50 IQ points. She is far more learned and thoughtful.
Re-read her article. She is not an Islamic fundalmentalist appologist, and her historic perspective is well informed.

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She may be learned, but she is patently biased against her own Christian heritage. (She may even be an apostate.) Granted, she has the freedom to take this position, but don't ask me to water it down. Her historic perspective on some points regarding Islamic history seems rather well researched, but her representation of prevailing Evangelical Christian eschatology (her references to Armageddon) are inaccurate, as is her ludicrous assertion that can be fairly summarized as "Franklin Graham made the Muslims radical -- or, at least, he is the one who put them over the top." In other words, though her spin is well-attired in academic garb, a shill is still a shill.
71 posted on 05/10/2003 7:18:53 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: BenR2
You need to check out Ba'at Yeor's Islam and Dhimmitude and see how Christianity has affected the rise of Islam. It has.
72 posted on 05/11/2003 1:41:30 PM PDT by vharlow
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To: vharlow
You need to check out Ba'at Yeor's Islam and Dhimmitude and see how Christianity has affected the rise of Islam. It has.


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Are you referring to Christianity's influence on the growth of Islam in general over the past 12 centuries? Or, are you referring to the alleged effect of contemporary Evangelical Christianity on the growth of Islamofascism over the past 50 years.

I am familiar with the Web site you mention -- and I like it, overall. I am not familiar with the part you are talking about, however.
73 posted on 05/11/2003 7:16:39 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: BenR2
"Franklin Graham made the Muslims radical -- or, at least, he is the one who put them over the top."

She stated this? Really?

I must admit to a favorable bias for a journalist who was one of the first to personally go down to Central America and expose Danny "specs" Ortega for the commie rat that he is.

74 posted on 05/11/2003 7:38:20 PM PDT by rightofrush (Not only Rush, but Buchanan as well.)
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To: rightofrush
"Franklin Graham made the Muslims radical -- or, at least, he is the one who put them over the top."
She stated this? Really?

I must admit to a favorable bias for a journalist who was one of the first to personally go down to Central America and expose Danny "specs" Ortega for the commie rat that he is.

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Okay. I'm taking liberties. But, she all but says it here:

"Second, one has to say that these gratuitous and unbalanced insults [by Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, et al] to the Muslim faith, which have been broadcast through globalization across the entire world, have played a major role in further radicalizing Muslim society."

(My take, anyway. She's subtle, but hateful.)
75 posted on 05/11/2003 10:31:44 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Seti 1
Freedom of speech applies only for the PC these days. Right or wrong, these people have the right to speak out what they believe, at least that is what I have heard from the Hollywood crowd.
76 posted on 05/11/2003 10:42:06 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Seti 1
First of all, one has to wish they had ever bothered to read a history book on Islam.

Why read a history book, just read the Koran. It is evident that Islam cannot coexist peacefully in America for long.
77 posted on 05/17/2003 12:29:58 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Seti 1
You forgot to post "THERMONUCLEAR BARF ALERT!!!" with the humorous title.
78 posted on 05/17/2003 12:32:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Mohammed Atta was a "Moderate Muslim" right up until September 10th.)
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To: Seti 1
Islam is at war with the world. The people who want to sugar coat it are good intentioned but in the end they will hurt us the most.
79 posted on 05/17/2003 12:35:28 PM PDT by Michael2001
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