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Bush Says Iraqi Weapons May Be Destroyed
AP ^ | Apr. 24, 2003 | RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent

Posted on 04/24/2003 2:37:36 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator

Bush Says Iraqi Weapons May Be Destroyed
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By RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent

LIMA, Ohio - President Bush (news - web sites) raised the possibility Thursday that any Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were destroyed before or during the U.S.-led war, suggesting for the first time that coalition troops may come up empty in their search.

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Bush, who is expected to mark the end of hostilities soon, defied much of the world to wage war against Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) in a bid to rid Iraq (news - web sites) of weapons of mass destruction. Iraqi leaders asserted the nation had none, and an intensive search by coalition forces has uncovered no proof so far of chemical or biological weapons or a nuclear weapons program.

"He tried to fool the United Nations (news - web sites) and did for 12 years by hiding these weapons. And so it's going to take time to find them," the president said at the Lima Army Tank Plant. "But we know he had them. And whether he destroyed them, moved them or hid them, we're going to find out the truth."

Senior administration officials began this week to scale back expectations that weapons of mass destruction would be found. Bush's spokesman, Ari Fleischer (news - web sites), said Wednesday that success of the search effort depends "not on finding something by bumping into it" but on information provided by Iraqis who might have been involved in such programs.

A senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Bush's remarks were based on information from at least one Iraqi scientist who has led coalition forces to materials used in the production of weapons of mass destruction and who has said some weapons were destroyed before the war, others perhaps afterward.

It is believed that some weapons may have been removed from Iraq, and some probably remain, the official said.

France, Russia and other allies opposed to the war want U.N. inspectors to verify any evidence of weapons uncovered by the United States. The Bush administration has refused, saying coalition forces are more efficient.

Bush did not say how likely it was that weapons had been destroyed, rather than hidden and perhaps soon to be uncovered.

"One thing's for certain, Saddam Hussein no longer threatens America with weapons of mass destruction," he said.

Troops on the ground have searched more than 80 sites that prewar U.S. intelligence judged the most likely hiding places for chemical and biological weapons as well as evidence of an Iraqi nuclear program. After a recent strategy shift, teams are now setting aside the search list and deciding where to go more on the basis of new information from Iraqis.

Bush's remarks came at the end of a politically charged three-city visit to Ohio, one of a dozen or so states that will be closely contested in the 2004 presidential election. Bush hopes to convert his wartime popularity into successes in Congress — particularly with his troubled $726 billion economic package.

Bush hoped to pressure Ohio Sen. George Voinovich (news, bio, voting record), a Republican who derailed the White House tax package by refusing to back cuts of more than $350 billion.

Voinovich briefly greeted Bush at the airport in Dayton but he did not attend the president's speeches nor bow to White House demands.

"I think he knows where I'm at," the senator said of Bush.

The president made his disappointment clear.

"Some in Congress say the plan is too big. Well, it seems like to me they might have some explaining to do. If they agree that tax relief creates jobs, then why are they for a little bitty tax relief package?" Bush said.

Democrats said Bush's plan favors the rich and offers low- and middle-income Americans a few hundred dollars in savings.

 

"For people who need prescription drugs or health insurance, that's a drop in the bucket," Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (news, bio, voting record), D-Ohio, said.

While aides said it was not yet time to declare victory in Iraq, the president nearly jumped the gun.

"We fought a war in Afghanistan (news - web sites), and now we have finished a war," Bush said in North Canton before catching himself and adding, "in the process of finishing a war in Iraq."

Several administration officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they expect commanding Gen. Tommy Franks to declare the hostilities over in a few days, paving the way for a presidential address as early as next week that would wrap up the war.

Separately, Bush plans to travel to Dearborn, Mich., on Monday to discuss the future of a newly liberated Iraq. The Detroit suburb is home to one of the nation's largest Arab communities.

While visiting the Lima plant, Bush put a positive spin on reports that some Iraqi factions do not welcome U.S. troops and that an Iranian-style theocracy may grow to power.

"In Iraq, there's discussion, debate, protest — all the hallmarks of liberty," Bush said. "The path to freedom may not always be neat and orderly, but it is the right of every person and every nation."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: destroyed; wmd
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Saddam invaded Kuwait because he KNEW that Kuwait was stealing Iraq's oil. He believed that very, very strongly.
1 posted on 04/24/2003 2:37:37 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
And, again, please don't post nay disinformation about the alleged finding of WMDs. No WMD's were found and the military confirms this every day during their briefings.

As this piece says: Bush is suggesting for the first time that coalition troops may come up empty in their search

2 posted on 04/24/2003 2:39:40 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
How does one destroy these chem or bio weapons?
Wouldn't there be a pile of charred, broken howitzer cannisters in a pit somewhere?
3 posted on 04/24/2003 2:41:29 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: RightWhale
It is a labor intensive, relatively dangerous operation to get rid of this stuff. Generally it is burned at very high temperatures. No way to do it without a trace. No REASON for them to do it on the sly. The stuff is there, or it's elsewhere. Either way we're going to find out what happened to it or some Ba'athist ministers gonna be kicking at the end of a rope. Or at least life in Guantanamo.
4 posted on 04/24/2003 2:44:59 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
He gave the WMD as the reason to invade Iraq. If he can't find them, regardless of what other reasons he now gives, it will look like a "bait and switch" operation.
5 posted on 04/24/2003 2:48:06 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: RightWhale
I believe I heard some news guy, probably one of those who was seeing SCUDs falling on Kuwait when the war started, that Saddam's fearsome WMD's might have been 'looted'. Can you begin to imagine truckloads or busloads of dead looters. After all, that stuff was supposed to be able to kill people by the millions.
6 posted on 04/24/2003 2:49:56 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Your direct comparison of President Bush to Saddam Hussein with respect to the moral justifications for their respective invasions is patently offensive, and ignores the widely different facts and circumstances between the invasions and between the legitimacy of their respective governments.

I absolutely agree that the USA must find compelling evidence of WMDs existing in Iraq currently or in the very recent past. But I'm not convinced you will accept any future findings as factual.




7 posted on 04/24/2003 2:50:10 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Media is going to have a 'field day' with this.
8 posted on 04/24/2003 2:51:07 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
"As this piece says: Bush is suggesting for the first time that coalition troops may come up empty in their search"

This is such a surprise.


9 posted on 04/24/2003 2:51:10 PM PDT by thetruckster
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To: RightWhale

10 posted on 04/24/2003 2:52:13 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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"But we know he had them. And whether he destroyed them, moved them or hid them, we're going to find out the truth."

I read it more as a threat to other countries that aided and abetted.

11 posted on 04/24/2003 2:52:24 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Looked Bush in the eyes on this one...Betcha there's a Royal Flush just waiting to be laid on the table.
12 posted on 04/24/2003 2:52:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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He gave the WMD as the reason to invade Iraq.

There was a lot of talk about that, mostly by people outside the decision loop. Same people are still talking it up even though they are still outside the decision loop. Fact is, the invasion was expressly to force Saddam and sons to leave Iraq.

13 posted on 04/24/2003 2:53:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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it will look like a "bait and switch" operation.

It looks more to me that Bush is setting up his critics to go after the bait. This wouldn't be the first for him.

14 posted on 04/24/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: ER_in_OC,CA
Prior to the invasion, Saddam accused Kuwait of secretly drilling 'diagonally' so that they would tap into Iraq oil. Kuwait was also guilty of manipulating the price of oil for the sole purpose of causing economic pain to Iraq. Saddam then placed his army at the border, declared that the negotiations failed and there was no reason to give Kuwait any more time to correct their behavior and then invaded Kuwait.
15 posted on 04/24/2003 2:55:47 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Sacajaweau
"Betcha there's a Royal Flush just waiting to be laid on the table"

Perhaps, but I can think of no reason why if he knows of them that he doesn't quickly display them. If time goes by and then he *finds* them, people will believe that he came up empty and planted them to cover his ass.

16 posted on 04/24/2003 2:56:03 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Yeah, like that. Those weren't 40-gal barrels of kerosine, were they?
17 posted on 04/24/2003 2:56:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: RightWhale
No, they were 'GAS' (LOL)
18 posted on 04/24/2003 2:57:24 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Iraq is the size of Calif and if I can't find the money my wife has surely buried in our back yard how can the troops find the WMD ?
19 posted on 04/24/2003 2:57:43 PM PDT by tubebender (?)
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To: RightWhale
"There was a lot of talk about that, mostly by people outside the decision loop. Same people are still talking it up"

That's what the US's representative, Sec. Powell gave as *the sole reason*.
20 posted on 04/24/2003 2:58:06 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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