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Actor Robbins Says US Now Viewed as 'Rogue State'
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/16/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/16/2003 3:35:41 AM PDT by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins said Tuesday that "it is time to get angry" over the Bush administration's alleged reprisals against opponents of the war.

Robbins told an audience at the National Press Club that the Bush administration has taken advantage of the American people and squandered the good will the world had recently developed toward the U.S.

"In the 19 months since 9/11, we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred," he claimed. "Basic inalienable rights, due process, the sanctity of the home have been quickly compromised in a climate of fear.

"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided," Robbins continued, "and a world population that had profound sympathy and support for us has grown contemptuous and distrustful, viewing us as we once viewed the Soviet Union, as a rogue state."

The actor-activist accused the Bush administration and other supporters of the war of a campaign of intimidation to silence those who disagree with them.

"A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio...[that] if you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications," Robbins claimed. "Every day, the airwaves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent."

Robbins also accused the American media of colluding with the U.S. government to conceal the consequences of the war against Saddam Hussein.

"Unlike the rest of the world, our news coverage of this war remains sanitized, without a glimpse of the blood and gore inflicted upon our soldiers or the women and children in Iraq," Robbins charged. "We are told it would be pornographic. We want no part of reality in real life."

He complimented the professionalism and achievements of the American military and challenged the argument that one cannot oppose the war while supporting the troops.

"Our ability to disagree and our inherent right to question our leaders and criticize their actions define who we are," Robbins argued. "To allow those rights to be taken away out of fear, to punish people for their beliefs, to limit access in the news media to differing opinions is to acknowledge our democracy's defeat."

Robbins called on those who agree or disagree with his anti-war stance to rise up against what he deems false patriotism.

"In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom...when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce," he continued. "Any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against. Any acquiescence to intimidation at this point will only lead to more intimidation."

War in Iraq Said to Be 'Trial Run' for 'World Military Dictator'

Thomas Andrews, who appeared with Robbins, now heads Win Without War, a coalition of some 40 groups including the NAACP, the National Council of Churches, the Sierra Club and the National Organization of Women.

He said Tuesday that the coalition opposed the war because it was "unnecessary, illegal and would leave our nation and our world less secure.

"Despite the much-touted successes of the military invasion," Andrews argued, "the costs and risks of this war remain enormous, and there is no reason to believe the U.S. is any more secure now than it was before."

The Maine Democrat and former U.S. representative from that state said he also fears that the Bush White House was merely "testing the waters" with the attack on Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.

"The U.S. war against Iraq is in many ways a trial run to establish what this administration calls a 'new norm' in international relations," Andrews said. "The Bush administration is pursuing a vision in which the U.S. is not only the world's policeman, but also the world's military dictator, answerable only to itself."

Andrews believes that the pre-emptive strike against Iraq will not have the desired effect of deterring other nations from developing weapons of mass destruction or selling them to terrorists.

"So-called rogue states could very likely conclude that they had better develop nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction immediately, or they'll be vulnerable to a United States preventive war," he concluded.

The war against Iraq had little to do with stopping terrorism, Andrews claimed, and may - in his opinion - fuel more attacks on the U.S.

"As expected, the war has caused an upsurge in anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and around the world," he argued.

"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War," Andrews continued. "What new networks will be spawned in reaction to the U.S. presence in Iraq?"

Bush Approval Ratings Rise as Statues of Saddam Fall

Newsweek.com reported Tuesday that President Bush's approval rating with the American public had risen 18 points in the past month to 71 percent.

"Bush gets strong marks for his handling of the war in Iraq and the larger war on terrorism, with 74 and 78 percent approving of his efforts in those areas respectively," Jennifer Barrett wrote for the newsmagazine's website.

"And a full 93 percent of those surveyed say they believe U.S. military efforts in Iraq have gone very well (73 percent) or somewhat well (20 percent) so far."

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To: kattracks
What are these guy's credentials?
41 posted on 04/16/2003 5:02:00 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: wafflespirit
The Liberal New Math means if you don't hate America, you're not a good Leftie.
42 posted on 04/16/2003 5:02:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kanawa
"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War,"

Al Qaeda became empowered by the sick religion of Islam, and its teaching that killing and murdering infidels (especially civilians) is the highest form of spiritual advancement.

43 posted on 04/16/2003 5:06:39 AM PDT by angkor
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To: goldstategop
Dear Tim Robbins;

You are a complete moron. Please shut your mouth before you bring more shame on the human race. You and your wife are socialist America haters who would probably be more comfortable in France or Canada anyway. Oh yes, could you take Alec with you too? PS Don't get too offended by my signature gif, okay? Weenie.


44 posted on 04/16/2003 5:08:07 AM PDT by BSunday (Robins tend to get eaten by eagles)
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To: goldstategop; yall
I just did a Google Search to look for Tim Robbins e-mail address
so I could send him my 2 cents on his idiocy! I couldn't find it.

I did find this site, and apparently it's been SWAMPED with hits, LOL !

Does anybody have Tim's e-mail address?? . . .

45 posted on 04/16/2003 5:11:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: The Wizard
Robbins is cryin'. Typical lib boo-hooing and denial that they also have responsibilities associated with their freedom of speech.

Prairie
46 posted on 04/16/2003 5:13:52 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Freedom isn't free.........unless you live in France.)
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To: wafflespirit
I am among the 93 percent who thinks that the war has gone well. I'm amazed at what our military is able to do. But that does not mean that I think the war should have happened. That's probably what Robbins meant by "bitterly divided".

And what would have been your alternative to war with Iraq????

47 posted on 04/16/2003 5:14:27 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: BSunday
Robbins and Saranwrap are partners only. common law marriage at best.

Prairie
48 posted on 04/16/2003 5:14:42 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Freedom isn't free.........unless you live in France.)
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To: kattracks
Where is a director when you need one to tell this guy "quiet on the set!". He seems determined to completely alienate himself from the public who pays to watch his movie. Or should I say used to watch his movies.
49 posted on 04/16/2003 5:16:59 AM PDT by Russell Scott (Liberals are slaves to their ideology, so don't expect them to embrace a free Iraq.)
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To: kattracks
The more he talks the more people will come to see exactly what the Hollyweird crowd is made of.

I agree. Let him self-destruct. More and more people are catching on to what the hollywierd people stand for.

50 posted on 04/16/2003 5:17:45 AM PDT by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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To: kattracks
Robbins views the US as a rogue state. I don't know what has changed, though.
51 posted on 04/16/2003 5:20:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: kattracks
I just heard clips from this guy's talk yesterday, and I realized who his voice reminds me of. He talks like Frank Sinatra.
52 posted on 04/16/2003 5:20:36 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Bluntpoint
Robbins is deep into the idea of a kind of government that would respect ony one point of view, and conservatives with means can be disenfranchised and reeducated.
53 posted on 04/16/2003 5:20:51 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: wafflespirit
I am among the 93 percent who thinks that the war has gone well. I'm amazed at what our military is able to do. But that does not mean that I think the war should have happened. That's probably what Robbins meant by "bitterly divided".

No, I think you've missed the point. Robbins is not talking about other peoples' opinions - he is saying "The country doesn't agree with me!" Robbins is himself bitter, so therefore his bitterness means there is a "bitter divide".

Finally, from the (brief) tone of your post, I surmise that you are willing to debate the merits of the war - to argue point-counterpoint about whether it should have happened or not. Robbins and his ilk aren't that sophistocated. They cannot allow any worldview but their own, and when theirs is challenged it means that they government is responsible!

Don't transfer any sensible tendencies from yourself to Robbins. He is an actor trying very hard to act like he knows what he's talking about - and failing miserably.

54 posted on 04/16/2003 5:22:23 AM PDT by MortMan
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To: kattracks
Too funny..... ""A unified American public has grown bitterly divided,"

What he means is: People are not paying any attention to anything me or my friends say, this is terrible.

Bwhaaaaaaaaaa
55 posted on 04/16/2003 5:40:11 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: kattracks
SECAUCUS, N.J. -— December 17, 2002 -— Following are excerpts from last night’s appearance by Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins on “Donahue.” A full transcript is available at www.tv.msnbc.com. “Donahue” airs weeknights, 8:00-9:00 p.m. on MSNBC, America’s NewsChannel.



TIM ROBBINS, ACTOR/DIRECTOR: Gee, blind support for leaders isn`t the domain of a democracy. It`s more the domain of a communist dictatorship. The great thing about America is we can ask questions, and the leaders work for us. We elect them. They work for us. And so they`re responsible to us. We`re not responsible to them. So to oppose a war is a difficult thing. It takes a lot of courage in this environment. It`s certainly not being said in the media. I don`t find it...

PHIL DONAHUE, HOST, “DONAHUE”: You think it`s a kind of a go-along, rah-rah media, do you?

ROBBINS: Well, I think we once had a media that was a watchdog that would look after the government, the series of checks and balances. And unfortunately, I`m afraid we have a lap dog now. We have a flack publicist for what the government wants.

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56 posted on 04/16/2003 5:41:48 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Peace through Strength)
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To: mhking
Maybe Robbins would be happier if someone from the White House got him a fruit basket.

"Oh Mr. President, make me squat on fruit."

57 posted on 04/16/2003 5:43:09 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: kattracks
Celebrity punditry has taken on a circus atmosphere, as our beloved entertainers have found a whole new way to clown their way to our mass amusement. I say, keep it coming! Every day, new proof of your fatuousness, your irrelevancy. Just by speaking, you make our side more serious and significant...

I love that speech impediment you've acquired, Timmy. Adds just the right touch to your performance...but you might get in trouble for making fun of a disability.

58 posted on 04/16/2003 5:44:09 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: kattracks
Hey Robbin, your right to complain has NOT been taken away,witness that you are in fact complaining! Not only that, you're on TV complaining! Not only that, but no one has thrown you in prison, no one has chopped off any of your body parts or pulled out your tongue. You call the president Hitler and claim free speach protection,when You are criticised, all of a sudden it's not free speach any more.You're a traitor and a loser.
59 posted on 04/16/2003 5:45:07 AM PDT by Frankss
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To: Dr. I. C. Spots
Tim, if you really hate United States that much, Cuba is waiting for you. Castro loves to hear from dissents.
60 posted on 04/16/2003 5:49:05 AM PDT by John123
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