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Uprising By Shiites in Basra Underway; British Pouring Artillery into City
Sky News Live Feed ^ | 03/25/03 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 03/25/2003 9:14:57 AM PST by TonyInOhio

Just monitored on Sky News: embedded reporter says Shiites in Basra have begun, in his words, a "popular uprising" against the Saddam forces still in the city. British Army units are "pouring" artillery into the city (likely isolated areas) preparing to move in.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisaddam; basra; embeddedreport; iraq; roadtobaghdad; shiites; uprising; war; warlist
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To: Coop
No problem.


Give me the financial and employee resources we waste on the UN, and we can get it done.

As for the others, disband the State Department and bring back the War Department.

621 posted on 03/25/2003 11:26:28 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: Alberta's Child
In case you haven't noticed, the "nation" to which we are responding differently in this "war on terrorism" is the United States.

I see (often violent) protestors still able to voice their opinions in the streets. I see the (usually idiotic) press still able to publish their drivel. Other than tighter security at airports (which is hardly unreasonable), I just don't see what you're talking about. Do you have examples (that are a result of the WOT, and not just the general encroachment of socialism)?
622 posted on 03/25/2003 11:29:30 AM PST by babyface00
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To: SierraWasp
"Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! For ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers. Woe unto you! For ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your
father's killed them."

--- Luke 11:46-47


623 posted on 03/25/2003 11:30:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: E Rocc; Grampa Dave
"E Rocc"

Gee! Is your handle pronounced just like Iraq, or what?

624 posted on 03/25/2003 11:31:12 AM PST by SierraWasp (Shi'ite's gonna happen to Soddomy!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Socialists-Communists are pretty much the same the world over.
625 posted on 03/25/2003 11:31:41 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Interesting Bible verse, considering that GOD repeatedly used men (Moses, Joshua, David) to DEFEAT His enemies. All things in context---which this verse isn't.
626 posted on 03/25/2003 11:32:02 AM PST by LS
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To: Paradox
This report is being denied by British officials.. oh well, it was good while it lasted.

First off, it's not being denied, they're saying they "have on knowledge" of it. Secondly, the admission curve of "officials" is often hours, or days behind reality.

There are reasons not to acknowledge certain facts at times, so I would take the British officials statement in that light.

It may or may not be real.

627 posted on 03/25/2003 11:32:28 AM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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To: oyez
My best guess is we had it, Shiites were seeing it being taken back by Saddam's boys(at least temporarily) and were hesitant until then to get involved(because of reasons stated in other posts). They want us to win and they realize we need their help to do so(ok, we probably would win anyway, but what's the difference between dying when we start shelling the whole area to protect our troops or dying trying to win their land back--honor!) These people want their land and want us to win and they've realized that perhaps they may die whether by the regime or our shells at some point and like patriots of old, they have decided to go out fighting and dying if necessary instead of cowering to a bunch of bullies(Saddam's guys). Good for these Shiites...the more Iraqis are willing to take back their land with our help, the harder it will be for Saddam to stay in power--like someone said, the ants realize they are more powerful than the grasshoppers...by sheer numbers alone.


OH, and I thought eventually we would see these folks do this. It just took them getting p*ssed enough to forget about the fears of us pulling out. Good for them. God willing, they will be liberated and they will be remembered as patriots in their country.
628 posted on 03/25/2003 11:33:21 AM PST by glory
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To: babyface00
Go into almost any public building in New York these days. If you have a meeting scheduled for 10:00 AM, you'd better get there at 9:30 so you can wait on line with everyone else who needs to get put through the wringer.
629 posted on 03/25/2003 11:33:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: ez
First off, it's not being denied, they're saying they "have on knowledge" of it. Secondly, the admission curve of "officials" is often hours, or days behind reality.

Good point. I have read that no body knows exactly what is going on there, it might be a general uprising against the Saddamists and the Coalition. Time will tell.

630 posted on 03/25/2003 11:34:05 AM PST by Paradox
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To: SierraWasp
Odd, since it was GOD who told Moses to appoint 12 judges to rule justly.
631 posted on 03/25/2003 11:34:06 AM PST by LS
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To: Helen
Try this link for info on the Fedayeen - ABC News- "Iraqi Kids Learn to Fight For Saddam"
632 posted on 03/25/2003 11:34:43 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: babyface00
I have to agree.

My life hasn't changed a bit.

However, I am sure Scott Ritter is upset that he can't get his porn in libraries, or that people are watching his email for enticing young girls.

Tommy Chong's son "suffered" for selling drug paraphernalia in a sting.

So the only liberties I see being oppressed are soft criminal acts that should have been prosecuted several years ago.
633 posted on 03/25/2003 11:34:47 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: Paradox
Where did you get that.

At noon, the ABC, CBS and NBC news channels here in Idaho all reported this as taking place and underway ... NBC said it was confirmed.

There was no talk of any kind of official UK denial.

We shall see. I hope it is taking place and believe it is probable. The Shi'ites have a history of rising up against Saddam ... and if they really believe we will help this time ... and if water and food are getting short ... I would say that it is probable.

634 posted on 03/25/2003 11:35:08 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: E Rocc; Grampa Dave
"I'm an agnostic (leaning towards deist), a smartass, and completely politically incorrect (both the right and left versions)."

"A mind is like a parachute... It must be open to work." (and full of AIR!)

635 posted on 03/25/2003 11:35:35 AM PST by SierraWasp (Shi'ite's gonna happen to Soddomy!!!)
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To: Petronski
It's starting to be reported all over. Now if we can get those hundred thousand fighting Kurds in action, this thing will pick up. We have a Marine General up there, hopefully he's there to organize them.

Hell, if you could get those Kurds down to Baghdad, we could just sit back and watch them go after the pro-Saddam troops. I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige.

636 posted on 03/25/2003 11:35:39 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: ez
Could I also assume that this was a secret military operation, and the officer in the rear (Kuwait) would not be privy to this due to strategy?
637 posted on 03/25/2003 11:36:29 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: E Rocc
But aren't they dirty evil Mohammedan sandmaggots? [/Sarcasm].

As long as they support our heroes I don't care what cult they are into. Hopefully, they will finally realize that Christianity reveals the truth about God.

638 posted on 03/25/2003 11:36:37 AM PST by eleni121
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To: ez
This report originated with Sky News, which in my observation has had the most wildly unreliable information since the outset of this conflict. Indeed, I've reached the point where I routinely ignore anything I see connected with Sky News unless it's directly corroborated by another source.
639 posted on 03/25/2003 11:38:20 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Alberta's Child
Go into almost any public building in New York these days. If you have a meeting scheduled for 10:00 AM, you'd better get there at 9:30 so you can wait on line with everyone else who needs to get put through the wringer.

That's it?! That's the government probing to which you refer? You do realize we've been attacked (recently, and in the very city to which you refer), we're in a (real shooting) war and there is still a real threat of terrorist attacks? This isn't happening in most of the rest of the country, BTW. Could it be because NYC was once a target?

I hope you can come up with some more substantial examples than that.
640 posted on 03/25/2003 11:39:03 AM PST by babyface00
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