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MOLES LED WAY TO ‘HIT' SADDAM
New York Post ^ | 3/23/03 | BRIAN BLOMQUIST and NILES LATHEM

Posted on 03/23/2003 7:55:48 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:12:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - When President Bush signed the order Tuesday night for a direct missile hit on a secret underground bunker in suburban Baghdad, just three minutes remained before the clock ran out on a mission that had been months in the planning.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: decapitation; warlist
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1 posted on 03/23/2003 7:55:49 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Although the Israelis have stayed quietly on the sidelines over the last week, their Mossad spy network is adept at getting in and out of various parts of Iraq without detection and have long cultivated Arab sources. Information almost certainly has been passed on.

One elite Israeli Scud-hunting team called the Shaldag - Hebrew for Kingfisher - has helped point out suspected hiding places for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. U.S. Special Forces are likely to hone in on those as the front advances toward Baghdad.

My kids were asking, last night, what the Israelis were doing to help us. I'm glad I can tell them about this.

2 posted on 03/23/2003 8:25:50 AM PST by syriacus (Cultural Diversity..... Iraqis using WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST...as human shields.)
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To: syriacus
Absolutely Israel has been our best secret partner throughout this...
A FACT I hope is not lost on us when this is over and Arafat and his assassines
pushes for a homeland carved out of Israel
3 posted on 03/23/2003 8:27:54 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; mhking; ...
((((((growl)))))



4 posted on 03/23/2003 8:35:36 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks, Saber ! bumpity! bumpity! bumpity! . . .
5 posted on 03/23/2003 8:56:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Sabertooth; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; MadIvan; ...
Thanks for the ping!

Fascinating!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

6 posted on 03/23/2003 10:02:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: kattracks
bump
7 posted on 03/23/2003 12:04:33 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: syriacus
Although the Israelis have stayed quietly on the sidelines over the last week, their Mossad spy network is adept at getting in and out of various parts of Iraq without detection and have long cultivated Arab sources. Information almost certainly has been passed on.

One elite Israeli Scud-hunting team called the Shaldag - Hebrew for Kingfisher - has helped point out suspected hiding places for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. U.S. Special Forces are likely to hone in on those as the front advances toward Baghdad.

This is what I've been praying for since the beginning of the first Gulf War. I knew the Israelis could do it.

8 posted on 03/23/2003 12:07:25 PM PST by tiki
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To: kattracks
Chinese-built fiber-optic communications cable.

So much for the sanctions on Iraq working.

9 posted on 03/23/2003 12:10:17 PM PST by Lx (So it's now, Duct tape and cover?)
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To: joesnuffy; Sabertooth; Allan; Mitchell; Badabing Badaboom; patriciaruth; sinkspur; bonfire; ...
Absolutely Israel has been our best secret partner throughout this...

A few weeks ago I saw Ollie North on Fox attributing the assassination of Abu Nidal last summer in Baghdad to the Israelis. You might remember that, after that event, a variety of mutually contradictory "authoritative" reports appeared, most attributing the death of Nidal to his paymaster, Saddam, for various hard-to-believe reasons. You might also remember President Bush's remarks when he was asked about the assassination while vacationing at his ranch -- remarks which seemed both cocky and cryptic. When the story of this war is finally told, the key operations will, I suspect, be special ops on the ground over the past 18 months, culminating in the still mysterious event which opened hostilities a few days ago. Bush hinted as much to Bob Woodward last year:

As we walked back, Bush again brought up Iraq. His blueprint or model for decision making in any war against Iraq, he told me, could be found in the story I was attempting to tell--the first months of the war in Afghanistan and the largely invisible CIA covert war against terrorism worldwide.

"You have the story," he said. Look hard at what you've got, he seemed to be saying. It was all there if it was pieced together--what he had learned, how he had settled into the presidency, his focus on larger goals, how he made decisions, why he provoked his war cabinet and pressured people for action.

I was straining to understand the meaning of this. At first his remark and what he had said before seemed to suggest he was leaning towards an attack on Iraq. Earlier in the interview, however, he had said, "I'm the kind of person that wants to make sure that all risk is assessed. But a president is constantly analyzing, making decisions based upon risk, particularly in war--risk taken relative to what can be achieved." What he wanted to achieve seemed clear. He wanted Saddam out.

Before he got back to his truck, Bush added another piece to the Iraqi puzzle. He had not yet seen a successful plan for Iraq, he said. He had to be careful and patient.

"A president, he added, "likes to have a military plan that will be successful."


10 posted on 03/23/2003 12:15:37 PM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: kattracks
The cruise missiles, armed with computer technology that would program their point of impact to within inches, were launched on their two-hour trek to Baghdad.

Guess I never thought about how long it would take for cruise missles to arrive at their destination when they are launched from a distance. The entire article is fascinating.

Thanks kattracks!

11 posted on 03/23/2003 1:18:00 PM PST by Magnolia
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To: Sabertooth
One elite Israeli Scud-hunting team called the Shaldag - Hebrew for Kingfisher - has helped point out suspected hiding places for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. U.S. Special Forces are likely to hone in on those as the front advances toward Baghdad.

Thanks for the update.

12 posted on 03/23/2003 1:31:39 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Magnolia
This came out yesterday or earlier. Looks like it was on the mark and has more details.


Final news from Batchelor Alexander.
WABC New York.
1 AM ET.

John Loftus
who has many contacts in the CIA:

Special force operatives, CIA, on location in Baghdad
(280 he says)
with video cameras
photographed the leaders from a distance entering the bunker.

Photographed the earlobes
and got positive identification
from CIA Langley
that Saddam, his sons.
and most of the inner circle were there.

Two stealth bombers
each with 2 2000 pound bombs
Created a hole, a chimney.
Immediately the special ops put a laser beam on the hole
put the coordinates of the chimney
to headquarters
reprogrammed 30 tomahawk missiles
which have a 1 meter window
flew down the chimney
no one could possibly have survived
even if in a safe.

Got a video of the medical crew arriving
frantic digging in the rubble
after a considerable time retrieved Saddam
brought him out
with a gas mask over his face.
Video tapes made to confirm.

Everyone killed
sons, top generals.

The next morning
Tariq Aziz held an emergency meeting
made frantic phone calls
all came
5 minutes later
20 cruise missiles came through the roof.
Baath party leadership eliminated.

Leaving electricity and telephone lines up
in order to monitor.
280 operatives in Baghdad
tapping phones
doing target surveillance.

Only two people known to have survived.
PR spokesman for Defence Department
and the Minister of Defence.

Haven't dug out the rest of the bodies.

John Loftus has known this story since Thursday.

(Disbelieve it if you want.
I believe it.)




13 posted on 03/23/2003 2:22:23 PM PST by gcruse (Democrats are the party of the Tooth Fairy.)
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To: kattracks
And in recent weeks, Jordanian, British and Australian commandos also have operated deep inside Iraq.

I think they've been there quite a bit longer. I've heard Australians have been there since last year.

14 posted on 03/23/2003 2:27:31 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: The Great Satan
Those paragraphs in Bob Woodward's book were absolutely the most fun of the book when I read it. Mostly because they let Woodward know that the President is indeed in charge and is not taking his duties lightly, but extremely seriously and with the best wisdom that can be mustered.

For a contrary view of how lightly a president can take his duties, I am looking forward to reading "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Endangered America's Long-Term National Security" Robert Patterson; Hardcover; @ $19.57 , which I just ordered from Amazon.com

15 posted on 03/23/2003 2:55:09 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Lx
Chinese-built fiber-optic communications cable.

So much for the sanctions on Iraq working.


You might be interested in knowing that the Fiber Optic System was made by ATT which was sold to China. China then took this system and installed it in Iraq (in violation of UN Sanctions) thanks to you know who...

Also, Israel is one of the largest suppliers of military tech to China, which get's transfered to Iraq and other countries. The US has been warning Israel about this. See Israel / China weapons links

Clinton Administration Sold to China Systems Used by Iraq
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/22/213115.shtml
Charles R. Smith
Friday, Feb. 23, 2001
The Clinton administration authorized the transfer of a fiber-optic air defense system to China ? the same one the Pentagon claimed helped thwart U.S. air attacks against Iraq.

When U.S. warplanes struck new Iraqi air defense sites around Baghdad, Pentagon officials were mum in naming the country that sold the new air defense missile system to Saddam Hussein.

The Washington Post revealed that China was assisting Iraqi air defense, an allegation promptly denied by Iraq. According to the Post article, Chinese engineers were helping Iraq to install a network of fiber-optic communications and computers designed to track and destroy U.S. warplanes. (The export also violates U.N. weapons embargoes against Saddam.)

President Bush's national security adviser confirmed last Thursday that Chinese engineers were indeed helping Iraq.

The real story behind Iraq's high-tech buildup remains untold until now.

The Chinese fiber-optic air defense system in the Iraqi desert is in fact of U.S. origin. In 1994, Chinese spymaster Gen. Ding Henggao obtained the advanced fiber-optic system through his contacts inside the Clinton administration.

According to documents obtained using the Freedom of Information Act, in 1994 Ding was a close friend of Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry.

Perry and Ding's relationship spans three administrations. Perry reportedly met Ding in the late 1970s during the Carter administration.

By 1994, Ding had risen to command the Chinese Army military research bureau "COSTIND," or the Commission on Science Technology and Industry for National Defense.

COSTIND, according to the General Accounting Office, "oversees development of China's weapon systems and is responsible for identifying and acquiring telecommunications technology applicable for military use."

In 1994, the personal consultant to Perry teamed with Ding to buy an advanced AT&T fiber-optic communications system for "civilian" use inside China.

The communications system slipped past U.S. exports laws as a joint U.S.-Chinese commercial venture called "Hua Mei." The Chinese part of the venture was run by a newly formed firm named "Galaxy New Technology."

Stanford professor John Lewis, a close friend and the paid personal consultant for Perry, was the key board member of the project.

According to the Far Eastern Economic Review, Lewis had his friend Perry write a letter on his behalf to U.S. government officials, favoring the fiber-optic export to China.

Lewis located Adlai Stevenson III, the former Democratic senator from Illinois, to lead the American side of the joint venture. Gen. Ding's wife, Madam Nie Li, headed the joint project as the Chinese co-chairman. Lewis contracted AT&T to ship the secure communication system directly to a Chinese army unit using Galaxy New Technology as a front.

The documents show that Lewis not only worked for Stanford University and the Chinese army at the same time, but that he also worked for the U.S. Defense Department.

In August 1994, Lewis and Secretary of Defense Perry traveled to Beijing to meet with Ding. According to the official list of attendees, Lewis accompanied Perry as his paid "personal" consultant.

Chinese Firm Backed by Military

AT&T officials who sold most of the equipment and software were adamant that there was no need to check the Chinese firm because the "civilian" Madam Nie Lie led it.

Yet, the so-called civilian firm was actually packed with Chinese army officers and experts. Madam Nie Lie was not only the wife of Gen. Ding Henggao; Madam Nie was actually Lt. Gen. Nie Lie of the Chinese army.

Another member of New Galaxy Technology, according to a Defense Department document, was Director and President "Mr. Deng Changru." Deng is also known as Lt. Col. Deng Changru of the People's Liberation Army, head of the Chinese communications corps.

Still another Chinese army officer on the Galaxy New Technology staff was co-General Manager "Mr. Xie Zhichao," better known in military circles as Lt. Col. Xie Zhichao, director of the Chinese army's Electronics Design Bureau.

In 1997, Rep. Henry Hyde pressed unsuccessfully for the Department of Justice to investigate the Galaxy New Technology scandal in a letter outlining his concerns.

According to Hyde, "in 1994, sophisticated telecommunications technology was transferred to a U.S.-Chinese joint venture called HUA MEI, in which the Chinese partner is an entity controlled by the Chinese military. This particular transfer included fiber-optic communications equipment, which is used for high-speed, secure communications over long distances. Also included in the package was advanced encryption software."

In 1994, the Chinese spymaster Gen. Ding personally penetrated the U.S. Defense Department at the highest levels, using his contacts with Secretary Perry to obtain a secure fiber-optic network.

There was more than profit for Ding and his Chinese army company packed with electronics experts.

The Chinese army's Electronics Design Bureau modified the American fiber-optic communication system, changing it into a secure air-defense system. The Chinese army then exported the newly modified system to Iraq.

The Iraqi air defense network, NATO code-named "Tiger Song," is made of U.S. and French fiber-optic parts modified by the People's Liberation Army.

Iraqi missiles guided by Tiger Song regularly attack U.S. fighter jets. U.S. jets have recently retaliated, striking back with bombs and missiles.

Chinese military engineers from 2nd and 4th Signals Corps of the Chinese Army Headquarters are even now repairing the damaged Iraqi air defense system.

The cat-and-mouse game of missile and electronic combat with Saddam is expected to continue for years as the Chinese army engineers improve the deadly Tiger Song network.

In 1998, Gen. Ding retired from active service in the Chinese army.

However, he was decorated by President Jiang Zemin as a hero of the Chinese communist party for his successful operations against America.

Ding's attack on America ranks as one of the most successful espionage operations of the 20th century.

Tiger Song, the Chinese fiber-optic air defense system in the Iraqi desert, is a legacy of the Clinton years that will now need to be revisited regularly by U.S. bombers in the 21st century.
16 posted on 03/23/2003 2:56:55 PM PST by gaucho (Baghdad or bust!)
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To: gaucho
Thanks for the info!

Clinton has done so much damage to the security of the US!

17 posted on 03/23/2003 8:59:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: bonesmccoy
See this item at post #13!
18 posted on 03/23/2003 9:02:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: joesnuffy
My suggestion for world peace is to make a Palestinian homeland in the South of France. What reasonable Palestinian would pass up that offer?
19 posted on 03/23/2003 9:05:00 PM PST by maro
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
wow...thanks!
20 posted on 03/23/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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