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Investigators: Suspect had been cited for insubordination
CNN ^ | 3/22/2003 | CNN Staff

Posted on 03/22/2003 9:57:44 PM PST by ex-Texan

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CAMP PENNSYLVANIA, Kuwait (CNN) -- A U.S. soldier has been detained and is being questioned in connection with a grenade and small arms attack early Sunday at an Army camp in northern Kuwait, the U.S. Central Command said.

The attack at Camp Pennsylvania, where soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division are stationed, wounded 13 people -- six of them seriously -- U.S. military officials said. Central Command said the suspect is assigned to the division.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 101stattack; antiamerican; courtmartialhim; embeddedreport; fifthcolumn; fifthcolumnist; grenadeattack; islam; islamispeace; killer; muslim; pc; politicallycorrect; religonofpeace; religonofpeacetm; sabotage; saboteur; traitor; treason; unamerican
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To: maestro
I think it's a concern.

I mean, come on.. We're supposed to kill or be killed with those things. They must work properly for us to do so.

101 posted on 03/23/2003 2:28:55 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
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To: Jhoffa_
You are 100% CORRECT.

Thanks for reality!

m

(When does the investigation begin on this kind of failure?)

102 posted on 03/23/2003 2:49:19 PM PST by maestro
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To: maestro; Poohbah
Why do we have a 33% failure rate on our hand grenades and shouldn't this be a series, hugh concern for our military?
103 posted on 03/23/2003 2:53:03 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
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To: AgentEcho
The black thing I wish the press would drop. The Muslim thing is disturbing to me.

It's very funny how political correctness has levels of importance. He's a member of two politically correct groups but obviously "muslim" has a higher ranking, so the press ---which would normally downplay him being black has to emphasize it in this case to downplay him being muslim.

Being black has absolutely nothing to do with this horrendous crime he has committed ---it's very unlikely a black Catholic, or a black Lutheran would have done this.

104 posted on 03/23/2003 3:06:12 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Jhoffa_
Why do we have a 33% failure rate on our hand grenades and shouldn't this be a series, hugh concern for our military?

BTTT

105 posted on 03/23/2003 3:08:01 PM PST by maestro
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To: FITZ
Being black has absolutely nothing to do with this horrendous crime he has committed ---it's very unlikely a black Catholic, or a black Lutheran would have done this.

There are "muslims who happen to be Black" (wherein your assertion would be correct) and there are "Black Muslims" (a Black-supremacist cult with some connection to Islamic ideas, one example of which is Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, another is "5 persent Nation of Islam" (the group the Beltway Sniper belonged to)

106 posted on 03/23/2003 3:27:14 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: AgentEcho
Great tag - thanks for the chuckle.
107 posted on 03/23/2003 3:35:05 PM PST by lodwick
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To: SauronOfMordor
I think a black Wahhabi convert would be likely to do something like this guy did. I don't know about black Shiite converts ---maybe. Whether he is NOI or Wahhabi or Shiite, I think all of those would be more likely to do this act than a black Lutheran convert. I wouldn't trust a white Wahhabi convert any more than I'd trust a black one.
108 posted on 03/23/2003 4:49:47 PM PST by FITZ
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To: SauronOfMordor
"Black Muslims" (a Black-supremacist cult with some connection to Islamic ideas, one example of which is Farrakhan's Nation of Islam

I don't see how Farrahkan can be blamed for this guy's act unless he shouted "kill the white devil" when he threw the grenade, I think it's significant that he waited until he was stationed in Iraq and decided to join in killing Americans.

109 posted on 03/23/2003 5:06:07 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Jhoffa_
Maybe this numbskull forgot to pull the pin on one of them.
110 posted on 03/24/2003 5:21:41 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I looked at the UCMJ. He can be tried for murder, which carries the death penalty.

Treason, I should think, would be out because he did not ***directly*** aid the enemy. (Constitutionally, treason is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I found nothing different on the UCMJ.)

But there are a slew of lesser charges too -- such as assaulting or willfully disobeying superior command. (that too, during time of war, can carry the death penalty.)

111 posted on 03/24/2003 5:31:50 AM PST by jude24 ("Facts? You can use facts to prove anything that's even REMOTELY true!" - Homer Simpson)
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To: jude24
Exactly so.

Treason is extremly difficult to prove. Murder is much simpler.

And the Army is playing it smart. Their case will not even MENTION that he is Muslim. When it goes to appellate review, the defense will have one HELL of a time convincing anyone that the case was motivated by anti-Muslim prejudice.
112 posted on 03/24/2003 5:43:03 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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