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Regarding Graphics During Heavy Free Republic Traffic
Posted on 03/17/2003 8:06:32 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
Edited on 03/18/2003 2:47:22 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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To: I Am Not A Mod
Thanks. Bumping for reference. (Didn't know about the image size addition)
To: nevergore
Is this correct? No, for that graphic you should use WIDTH=331 HEIGHT=450. When you get the original image on your browser, do right click --> properties to see the original size. If you want to resize it, stick close to the same proportions (e.g. 110 x 150).
To: DoughtyOne
Good post. However, if one posts using the HEIGHT and WIDTH attribute, even if the server the image is on is totally overloaded, the thread will load normally, and as such it won't kill the thread.
To: DoughtyOne
Folks, please do not post photos from servers that are very very very slow. Threads simply will not load if your graphic freezes on loading. When you post a grahic that doesn't work, it can practicly kill a thread. Ah, but apparently if the WIDTH and HEIGHT modifiers are used, the slow graphics will not cause the thread to freeze on loading.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Oh my goodness, what a cute little one. Thank you for the great 'graphic' :)
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posted on
03/17/2003 8:41:44 AM PST
by
Cate
(LET FREEDOM RING!!!!)
To: Physicist
As a stopgap, the software could simply reject IMG tags without height and width modifiers, warning the user at preview time, and providing a message telling him what to do. Indeed, it is nearly time for my yearly crucifixion.
I do plan on working out these image issues (there are others) in due time. On my list they're a mid-priority feature.
To: Physicist
Thanks!!
NeverGore
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posted on
03/17/2003 8:50:36 AM PST
by
nevergore
(Stupid is as stupid does....)
To: W04Man
Thanks for that tip, "target=blank". I didn't know how to do that.
Question, what do you use to format your thumbnail page? I could use that.
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posted on
03/17/2003 8:53:38 AM PST
by
McGruff
(It's time for all to lay their cards on the table.)
To: Physicist
Can a method be devised for FR to give size modifiers to image tags automatically, if a user doesn't provide them? Of course, you wouldn't want to hardwire them, since you don't want to screw up the aspect ratios, but could the FR software someday attempt to "discover" the resource sizes at posting time? That really would start taking bandwidth from FR - how does the server know what height and width to assign to an image without at least grabbing the image file headers? Before, when you were previewing for the first time, your browser only had to open a connection to the remote URL for the image file, and download it straight to you, without FR's server bandwidth being used at all (except for the IMG tag itself, of course), but now the server itself would also have to download the image in order to know what attributes to give it, in order to at least preserve the aspect ratio...
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posted on
03/17/2003 8:57:18 AM PST
by
general_re
(Non serviam.)
To: I Am Not A Mod
Some browsers get easily pixelated.
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:00:36 AM PST
by
Consort
To: humblegunner
I always wondered how to control graphic size, short of resizing and re-supporting.You are not limited to using the exact size of the original. You can make it appear smaller or larger to make the page layout look good.
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:06:15 AM PST
by
js1138
To: nevergore
Lets try
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:07:34 AM PST
by
Mark Hamilton
("You can't reason somebody out of something they did'nt reason themselves into.")
To: general_re
But it only has to grab each image headers once per image, at preview time. After that, it's hardwired into the HTML. The bandwidth overhead should be negligible.
If the image server doesn't respond in a timely manner (a few seconds, I'd say), the preview screen could just time out and give a warning message. In that case, it's probably not an image that should be posted right then anyway.
To: Physicist; I Am Not A Mod
Thanks guys. I'm suspecting some of the folks your addressing won't quite get there, but every one that does, it will help. It's a valient effort.
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:29:06 AM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Don't just sit there, use the links on the Graphic Teaser.)
To: general_re
That really would start taking bandwidth from FR - how does the server know what height and width to assign to an image without at least grabbing the image file headers? Before, when you were previewing for the first time, your browser only had to open a connection to the remote URL for the image file, and download it straight to you, without FR's server bandwidth being used at all (except for the IMG tag itself, of course), but now the server itself would also have to download the image in order to know what attributes to give it, in order to at least preserve the aspect ratio... Actually, that's incorrect. The FR server doesn't download the images at all. The client browser (Netscape, Mozilla, Internet Explorer, et al) is the only thing downloading the remote images. The FR server never sees them.
The advice on including height
and width
attributes in the img src
tags is both valid and good and should save lots of folks lots of headaches.
-Jay
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:51:14 AM PST
by
Jay D. Dyson
(Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
To: I Am Not A Mod
Great post.
(As an aside the image above is just 837 bytes in size, stored as a .png "Portable Network Graphic" format, which often does a better job than .gif's and .jpg's at reducing image file size.)
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:55:36 AM PST
by
Fixit
To: I Am Not A Mod
I wish the adminmods would suspend anyone from posting threads that signs up the same day or within the last couple of days, I have a feeling the trolls are ready to swamp this forum.
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:56:21 AM PST
by
Brett66
To: Jay D. Dyson
While it does not now, if you go back and read the original post, general_re was suggesting that the FR server COULD go out and determine the image size attributes, then automatically insert the image size attributes into the html for that user's post.
Such a system would (marginally) add some bandwidth to the FR server at the time of posting, but it could serve to increase everyone elses enjoyability by easing all future downloads.
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posted on
03/17/2003 9:58:26 AM PST
by
Fixit
To: Mark Hamilton
Lets try <img height=300 src="http://www.military.com/NewsContent?file=FL_inspect_031703" width=300> Okay, first mistake. You're trying to turn an HTML page into an inline graphic. That will never work. You need to make a direct call to the remote graphic. Something like this:
<img src="http://www.9-11justice.org/images/is_it_any_wonder.jpg" height=400 width=600>
...which will give you this:
![](http://www.9-11justice.org/images/is_it_any_wonder.jpg)
Make sense? (I mean the HTML code, not the Palestinian stupidity.)
-Jay
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posted on
03/17/2003 10:00:04 AM PST
by
Jay D. Dyson
(Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
To: Ragtime Cowgirl; I Am Not A Mod
Thanks for the heads up, RC ! And for the post, Not A Mod !
Not A Mod: I usually add the height size and often don't include the width size. From your post, then, am I to assume that having only ONE dimension slows the loading the same as NOT having ANY size specified in the graph template? . . .
In any case, my appreciation in advance for your feedback and for the opportunity to improve my posting of graphs!
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posted on
03/17/2003 10:17:58 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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