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Nugent stirs campus with hard-line views
The Daily Northwestern ^ | February 24, 2003 | By Jerome C. Pandell

Posted on 03/17/2003 5:08:33 AM PST by Carbonsteel

Conservative activist and rock star Ted Nugent saluted "the attitude, the spirit and gargantuan kahunas for inviting Uncle Ted to share in this educational jihad campfire" with about 600 Northwestern students at Ryan Family Auditorium Friday night.

"Unlike Jerry Garcia," said Nugent amidst cheers from the mostly male audience, "I'm here tonight because drugs, tobacco, alcohol and way too much fast food is for a--holes."

Nugent, who was brought to campus by College Republicans, commanded the audience to work hard toward the "American dream, because there's no such thing as a French dream."

"There is a Mexican dream," Nugent said. "It's to get the hell out of Mexico and come to the United States where you're paid for your work."

Nugent -- who often hunts with the native peoples of North America and Africa -- said the American dream is "full of holes" because American Indians "wanted Ted Nugent to teach them how to kill a buffalo with a stick."

"When Indians are abusing substances and dying through intentional misconduct, I suppose you would have to call the Motor City goofball to set them straight," he said. "Today, you bust your a-- in America 'til the Fourth of July to pay for the a--hole lifestyles of pimps, whores and welfare brats."

College Republicans President Katie Althen said last week the group was bringing Nugent to campus to talk about guns in America -- a topic he only briefly touched on Friday.

"I didn't know what to expect," said Althen, a Weinberg senior, after the event. "He raised a lot of discussion, and he's the most exciting speaker I've seen on this campus."

During his speech, Nugent said he never went to college because he was "too busy learning sh--." He credited his father for raising him to eschew drugs and alcohol. "My dad would have ripped my head off and sh-- down my neck if I stepped out of line," he said.

In the 1960s, Nugent turned down drugs from Jimi Hendrix and Jerry Garcia because "there's some good looking pus-- out there, and I don't want to mess with my level of awareness," he said. "If you're not smart, horny will do."

About six audience members walked out when he began a tirade that blamed "butt ----ing" for the spread of HIV/AIDS.

"Gays get more tax dollars than boys and girls who have leukemia through no fault of their own," Nugent said. "The word queer, fag or homo can't bother 'em because they're ----ing in the ass. ... If using the term butt ----ing is indecent, then what is butt ----ing?"

Evanston resident Nick Bennett, a former NU student, appreciated that Nugent let him talk one-on-one after the speech.

"He was pretty gracious for letting me argue with him," said Bennett, 21. "A lot of his viewpoints I disagree with, but he presents them well, and to form any kind of argument, you need to get all sides."

In a society too politically correct, Nugent said no one separates symbolism from conduct any more. Using the racial epithet "nigger" as an example, Nugent told a story of how one of his Motown heroes in the '60s told him at age 13 that if he kept playing the guitar, he might "grow up and be a nigger one day."

"To me the word 'nigger' is a badge of honor," Nugent said. "But if some Klansman with brown spittle dripping out of his mouth said, 'You ain't nothing but some nigger,' I'd have to shoot him."

Matt McLaughlin, an usher at the event, said some of Nugent's beliefs surprised him.

"Every other word was '-uck,'" said McLaughlin, a Medill sophomore. "He took his views to (an unexpected) end of the spectrum."

Before he left, Nugent charged the audience to "challenge operating procedures" because "the status quo sucks."

Nugent stayed to chat -- and in some cases argue -- with students after his speech. He also offered his own assessment of his performance:

"I feel the speech was a 10, and I came to cause disruption and make people think."

The Daily's David Sterrett contributed to this report.


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To: Aeronaut
I was merely "stirring the pot."

Time to eat!

61 posted on 03/17/2003 11:58:07 AM PST by TotusTuus
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To: tuckrdout
"Didn't his momma teach him not to use profanity?"

You gotta speak the language of your audience. I thought the profanity was a bit over the edge, but the message, complete with profanities, undoubtedly hit the mark and made some of these spoiled brats think. I have nothing but respect for someone who will stand up and boldly and publicly say what needs to be said and political correctness be d*mned!

62 posted on 03/17/2003 12:05:43 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: skinkinthegrass
National Health Amin.?
NIH rings a bell--National Institutes of Health, I think . . .

63 posted on 03/17/2003 12:22:14 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: archy
By the time I went through basic training, they weren't allowed to swear at us, so my TI called us her little heathens. That was 23 years ago. I can only imagine what kind of namby-pamby stuff must go on now, though I hope not.
64 posted on 03/17/2003 12:24:07 PM PST by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Homeland Defense)
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To: ODC-GIRL
I couldn't help but notice both your location, noted in your FReeper profile, and the wealth of military experience you've gathered since those days we don't quite seem to be able to forget.

If your plans for your reactivation don't go as smoothly as you hope and you'd care to take a few little heathens of your own under your wing in hopes they might be a little better future officers and leaders than the run of the mill, give me a FReepmail when you get the chance.

And don't forget that when you Aim High, there's less of a chance of shooting yourself in the foot.

-archy-/-


65 posted on 03/17/2003 12:36:32 PM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: GSWarrior
Aren't we proud?
66 posted on 03/17/2003 12:51:15 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: archy
So far, it's on track! (It helps when the new State Adjutant General is your former Wing Commander) I never thought I would be "unretiring" when I left in August 2001. But it seemed the only choice to make after 9-11. I hope to have my officer brother swear me in, if he doesn't end up getting deployed!

Basic training certainly makes a lasting impression. And my early days of Air Defense, during the Cold War, left me with some interesting stories to tell!

67 posted on 03/17/2003 12:58:03 PM PST by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Homeland Defense)
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To: Mudboy Slim
About a month and a half ago Sammy Hagar was on the "Bob And Tom" radio show and said that Ted had come down to Sammy's bar/resort Cabo Wabo in Mexico, and had tried tequila for the first time (Sammy's brand is apparently much more pure and authentic and preferable to what you usually buy for a number of reasons I won't go into) and loved it.

"Fifty years of sobriety and you get me to fall in love with this sh*t," (or something very close to that) Ted reportedly told Sammy, who now says he's sent cases of the primo "rhino cum" (as Ted used to refer to liquor) up to his buddy's abode.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But is there a hint of hypocrisy going on here? Anyone else hear this interview?
68 posted on 03/17/2003 1:33:46 PM PST by Burr5
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To: Illbay
While I am very mindful as to the lyrical content of the music brought into my home, I realize that Nugent's political message may reach those...uh...coarser elements of the Converative movement.

Proud? Not particularly, but not especially embarrassed either.

69 posted on 03/17/2003 1:36:48 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Burr5
"Fifty years of sobriety and you get me to fall in love with this sh*t," (or something very close to that) Ted reportedly told Sammy, who now says he's sent cases of the primo "rhino cum" (as Ted used to refer to liquor) up to his buddy's abode."

LOL...check this out, FBD!!

"Not that there's anything wrong with that. But is there a hint of hypocrisy going on here?"

IMHO, Gonzo believes sobriety should be the DrugOfChoice fer most folks, but I doubt he would outlaw tequila--or the EvilWeed--fer the rest of US...MUD

70 posted on 03/17/2003 1:48:18 PM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Time fer Soddom'sInsane to be Transformed into a PINK MIST!!!")
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To: FBD; gonzo; conservativemusician
"Fifty years of sobriety and you get me to fall in love with this sh*t," (or something very close to that) Ted reportedly told Sammy, who now says he's sent cases of the primo "rhino cum" (as Ted used to refer to liquor) up to his buddy's abode.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But is there a hint of hypocrisy going on here?
71 posted on 03/17/2003 1:48:51 PM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Time fer Soddom'sInsane to be Transformed into a PINK MIST!!!")
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To: Mudboy Slim; Howlin
Ted Nugent Bump!
72 posted on 03/17/2003 3:10:27 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (PR is everything.)
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To: Mudboy Slim; GSWarrior; Illbay; Burr5; ODC-GIRL; sweetliberty; garyhope; archy; Blood of Tyrants; ..
"Fifty years of sobriety and you get me to fall in love with this sh*t," (or something very close to that) Ted reportedly told Sammy,

WHO reported it? The liberal Media?

"But is there a hint of hypocrisy going on here?

Nope.

I can tell you all with confidence, that Ted Nugent cares about kids, and has a great respect for the elderly.

His hunting mentor was an old man named Fred Bear, who has passed away. Ted has written a song in his memory, and included some of Fred’s words to kids in the song.

Mudboy Slim, you've seen the picture of Ted Nugent’s kid. For the rest of you folks, here he is, posed with a big buck he had just shot.

Ted Nugent’s son…do you think he’s got a respect for human life, unlike inner-city gang banger kids that have NEVER been out in the woods?

This is a young man that will grow up with a respect for his family, and for human life, as well as wildlife.

Ted isn't trying to outlaw alcohol, or tobacki. Just showin' folks ya don't need it to enjoy life. If Columbine High school had brought Ted Nugent in, and invited those high school kids to go through his archery/hunting camp, I would wager that the tragedy wouldn't have happened.

Kids today need a good dose of outdoor life. Get 'em off the Nintendo, and out in the woods.

Sign ‘em up here… Nugent Kamp for Kids


73 posted on 03/17/2003 7:49:33 PM PST by FBD (I'm not really a Celebrity Judge... I just play one on the "Black Threads")
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To: photogirl
bump
74 posted on 03/17/2003 7:53:05 PM PST by RepublicanHippy
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To: FBD
"Ted Nugent’s kid"

Looks EXACTLY like his Ol' Man...Zackley!! 'Cept fer the long hair, which had me assuming--there's that word again--that ALL long-haired Rock'n'Rollers drank and/or did drugs!! With many musicians, this stereotype did indeed turn out to be true, but it is interesting to me to find out that Nugent was a Tee-Totaler.

Great post, my FRiend, on an interesting thread, IMHO...MUD

75 posted on 03/18/2003 3:03:23 AM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Riamh Nar dhruid O sbairn lan" (Gaelic fer "Never retreat from the clash of spears"))
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To: Aeronaut
Ya ever read his "I am a Bad American" thing? (ducking/running) Had to say it didn't you. LOL
76 posted on 03/18/2003 2:12:08 PM PST by ottersnot (Let's Roll. Free Iraq , then France. Sic Semper Tyrannus, Free the Seven Duffs!)
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