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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: chiller
Does the UN really want to draw more attention to their idiocy?
41 posted on 03/15/2003 11:15:38 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: David1
#29...Oh, you mean Ellen "I hope President Bush fails" Ratner.
Why am I not surprised.
42 posted on 03/15/2003 11:19:39 AM PST by Guenevere (...)
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To: All
Anyone considering invading the U.S. should think twice, especially a body as weak as the U.N. Aside from our military force, what would they do about all of the millions of American civilians? Other countries know that most of us are not only armed to the teeth (especially states that border Canada and Mexico) we know how to use them. I think the idea of a few million or more crazy armed Americans would make anyone back down. I guess having a "cowboy" reputation isn't such a bad thing!
43 posted on 03/15/2003 11:22:27 AM PST by Morrigan
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To: longtermmemmory
"Not all of the armies of Europe combined could take one drink from the Mississippi without our let and leave"

- Abraham Lincoln

44 posted on 03/15/2003 11:22:44 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Grampa Dave
Your#38)..............You made up a....GREAT 'Rock' song!......Gotta,...'Roll'.

How many Islamic 'Dumobats' want to 'turn-off' America's 'Rock n Roll',......?

(Tolerance anyone?)

45 posted on 03/15/2003 11:22:52 AM PST by maestro
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To: Grampa Dave
If he has been financed by some Opecker Islamofacist thugs in the past or recently, try him for terrorism.

He is much more likely to occupy a tenured chair endowed by the tax-exempt foundation of an American communist.

46 posted on 03/15/2003 11:23:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Or maybe both!
47 posted on 03/15/2003 11:25:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: maestro; DoughtyOne; Travis McGee
The credit for the banner logo goes to Doughty one.

Travis McGee started toying around with the anti UN stuff to put in our vehicle windows. I threw a few things in the mix as did others. Travis polished them up.

The next thing I know is that Doughty one has taken the best of them and made them into this great banner. It is amazing how Free Republic works!

48 posted on 03/15/2003 11:28:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Go to war with the US to prevent the US from going to war? These people are absolutely brilliant!
49 posted on 03/15/2003 11:30:26 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: longtermmemmory
Perhaps, we're being too uptight about this; too judgemental. Personally, I could use a harsh laxative!
50 posted on 03/15/2003 11:30:28 AM PST by old school
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To: longtermmemmory
Law Professor urges UN to invade USA?

They already have. Took a good size piece of Manhattan back in the '40's, then they opened up a second front on 9-11-2001. Their command post is in Chappaqua, it was in DC untill '01.

51 posted on 03/15/2003 11:31:08 AM PST by putupon (Boycot Michelin/Goodrich (Fr) and Contiental/General (Ger) Tires, & FStone, US but they suk)
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To: longtermmemmory
Somebody's gotta post a pic on Dukakis in the tank...I couldn't find one...he's my choice for Field Marshall of this group. Maybe we could get Kofi a tank, too.
52 posted on 03/15/2003 11:34:20 AM PST by choicenotecho
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To: longtermmemmory
I've always heard that the more we empower the evil UN, the greater the chance it will be used against the USA.
53 posted on 03/15/2003 11:34:59 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003
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To: longtermmemmory
Somebody got a pic of Duke in the tank...he's the natural for Field Marshall of this group.
54 posted on 03/15/2003 11:35:50 AM PST by choicenotecho
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To: longtermmemmory
this kind of crap makes me sick and makes me mad. makes me feel like stompin some anti-American liberals
55 posted on 03/15/2003 11:39:03 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: BulletBobCo
Imagine the news reports:

President Bush activates 5 cub scout troops to thwart UN attack.

AP 4/15/2003

Top Senate democrats attacked President Bush today, for using excessive force against invading UN troops. Minority leader Tom Daschle responded to news of the President's plan to unleash the cub scouts: "I am frequently mistaken for a cub scout, so I know how frightening it must be for the poor ill-equipped UN troops to be faced with the prospect of being whipped by children. This is clearly a case of the President pursuing an imperialist military attack against poor people everywhere."

Outside the UN headquarters building in New York, cub scouts began to arrive by minivan, and could be seen taking positions around the parking lot. Armed with BB guns, slingshots, and suction cup arrows, the cub scouts appeared eager to answer the call to duty. A UN correspondent overheard conversations among huddled UN troops about filing a resolution to declare slingshots and BB guns to be weapons of mass destruction.

France, Germany, Russia and China joined together to call for inspecions of the cub scout weapons, and insisted that the US refrain from action until a UN resolution could be put forward and passed.

56 posted on 03/15/2003 11:39:17 AM PST by e_engineer
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp
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Standard leftists Dave, and more likely to be communists of the International Front than supported by Islamofascists.

When oh when are you gonna learn? Our biggest problem is traitors in our midst. Islam is a real threat, but please don't obscure the real danger among us with baseless charges that give those traitors an open field.

57 posted on 03/15/2003 11:39:32 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/865552/posts

Boston Tea Party time?
58 posted on 03/15/2003 11:41:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Oh, that's funny. That would be one quick way to get themselves wiped out...
59 posted on 03/15/2003 11:41:21 AM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: longtermmemmory
sick stuff
60 posted on 03/15/2003 11:46:55 AM PST by EveningStar
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