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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: rednek
Its too bad we over 35 can't join. I would seriously think about joining right now.
101 posted on 03/15/2003 12:34:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Grampa Dave; DoughtyOne; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
The next thing I know is that Doughty one has taken the best of them and made them into this great banner. It is amazing how Free Republic works!

It sure is amazing. Nearly instantaneous electronic activism at one's finger tips, leading to action in the streets. We do make a difference.

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102 posted on 03/15/2003 12:35:01 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Carry_Okie
Why put off the inevitable? I say to the forces of evil - BRING IT ON. There's no reason to put this off to future generations, while we're the ones trained in the art of war as well as the ones who have the stomach to put that training to good use.
103 posted on 03/15/2003 12:36:41 PM PST by 11B3 (.308 holes make invisible souls. Belt fed liberal eraser.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Just think of the folly of this. Invade the U.S., right. 2 million in the various armed forces, and 50+ million gun owners.
Come and Get It fools.
104 posted on 03/15/2003 12:37:54 PM PST by JSteff (Use common sense and look at history first.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Sure the UN could invade the US and use force of arms to do so. PeeWee Herman can punch Mike Tyson in the face too.

Similar results could be expected except PeeWee might recover.

105 posted on 03/15/2003 12:38:56 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Carry_Okie
I know it is sophomoric to deride his physical features--but he ain't purdy to look at either.

From Ratners lament on his Web site:
>>They are sent to Egypt and Jordan where these agencies engage in interrogation tactics such as torture and threats to families that are illegal in the United States. <<

When one breaks the law, and becomes a criminal, anything can happen! If I decided to sell a narcotic so I could make megabucks---I would be entering a dangerous, risky world where no law rules. I would have to live with the consequences of my decision to be a criminal.

So it's their own damn fault if they ended up in the mess they are in, if they are truly not guilty of terrorism.

risa



106 posted on 03/15/2003 12:39:20 PM PST by Risa
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To: M Kehoe; EBUCK
It is really amazing. Free Republic is becoming a really worthy adversary of the forces of evil here and around the world.

I have pinged EBuck to show us how thoughts on Free Republic become hard hitting bill boards against the enviralists who create the situations for wild fires!
107 posted on 03/15/2003 12:41:16 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: JSteff
I am sticking with it will never get voted because of the naked emperors concept.

What really has to be nipped in the bud is the law professors who THINK this is even a serious possibility. They also have to stop teaching this as viable at the law schools. If given 1/2 a chance the left would sell out the USA.
108 posted on 03/15/2003 12:41:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Carry_Okie
>>You're right, I shouldn't be making the leap...<<

Oh, no...I didn't mean to imply you shouldn't be making the leap...And it was obviously a fruitful leap! I just wondered if I had missed something in the ad.


risa
109 posted on 03/15/2003 1:03:15 PM PST by Risa
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To: longtermmemmory
25,000,000 unregisterd firearms say, NO!
110 posted on 03/15/2003 1:04:55 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: xzins
We should do that anyway.
111 posted on 03/15/2003 1:07:04 PM PST by dinodino
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To: longtermmemmory
The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

With whose troops? Most UN actions have been disproportionately carried out by US troops in the past 40 yrs. Who're they going to call on to attack us?

112 posted on 03/15/2003 1:07:25 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Grampa Dave
I wonder where that little picture of the 'well-ventilated' blue helmet is. Anyone have it?

Nam Vet

113 posted on 03/15/2003 1:09:33 PM PST by Nam Vet (TAG!!......You're it!)
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To: tuna_battle_slight_return
thanks...I owe it all to Dayquill :)

114 posted on 03/15/2003 1:12:12 PM PST by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: longtermmemmory
What I want the UN should know is the "lock and load" boys would be all over these idiots in a heartbeat!! If the UN wants war - let them attack the USA and see what happens - there will be blood in the streets and the UN bldg. will be the first to go.

I know that sounds harsh - but these "doves" do not have the slightest idea what they're doing. They cannot face an actual bully (Iraq), so what makes them think they will be able to take on the USA. They must be joking!! These people don't have any stomach for war - look at what they've been doing for the past 12 years with Iraq - and they think they are going to scare the USA ...?? don't make me laugh!
115 posted on 03/15/2003 1:13:40 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: longtermmemmory
This is laughable. Even if the UN had the forces in sufficient numbers and capabilities to make the attempt, it would be another decade, at least, before they could decide on it's use.
116 posted on 03/15/2003 1:14:51 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: longtermmemmory
(All rise) RE: The United States of America vs. Michael Ratner

"The court has ruled that Michael Ratner is guilty of the charge of sedition and treason. The State will decide on the date and time the gallows shall be used as the instrument of justice."

"Now for verdict regarding the case of the United States of America vs. Bubba Klintoon..."

117 posted on 03/15/2003 1:17:49 PM PST by F16Fighter (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [France] is for good men [America] to do nothing.)
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To: Nam Vet
As you wished!


118 posted on 03/15/2003 1:18:53 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: longtermmemmory
unilateral rush to war- RATner

If he actually believes this, then he's psychotic. Truly psychotic. If he knows it's a lie but repeats it endlessly anyway, he's amoral human scum.

119 posted on 03/15/2003 1:21:53 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: longtermmemmory
Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

Gee, I wonder why Ratner didn't come up with this brilliant idea when Clinton declared war on Milosevic's regime without a UN resolution?

120 posted on 03/15/2003 1:23:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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