Senate passes Partial Birth abortion ban

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[netmilsmom]

This is a banner at the top of the Fox website. Thank God!

[jwalsh07]

In my state of CT, the devout Jewish senator and the devout Catholic senator both voted for infanticide.

Disgusting.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If the woman threatens suicide unless the pregnancy is ended (baby is killed) is one. I know because the doctor coached ... this path

That doctor must take some kind of cake... devil's food cake that is. "Hey lady, you want to push the responsibility for your impending suicide upon circumstances, WE UNDERSTANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND." Far be it from this witch doctor to suggest a woman could look past her pregnancy, to a time when she could adopt the child out if she decided she didn't want to keep it once born. You repented of your sin. I'm curious if he ever repented of his.

[Matchett-PI]

"Religion has nothing to do with it... If th child is viable outside of the womb, then to kill it is murder. Period..."

So you determine for yourself (or allow other men to determine it for you) what constitutes murder?

Who gave you your unalienable rights?

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

Is this really final??? Did Hitlery melt?

[nicmarlo]

Hold your horses.....it may not be as great as it first appears....that depends if the "Durbin amendment" was included with the vote:

. . . Senate passage is the big test — and it appears the bill has enough votes to pass. Still, pro-abortion Illinois Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin plans to introduce a substitute measure that would include a health exception for the mother. The Durbin amendment, as it is called, would basically gut the partial-birth abortion ban altogether, according to Mike Schwartz, vice president of government relations at Concerned Women for America.

"A vote for the Durbin amendment is a vote to kill the partial-birth abortion ban ... and that means that means we'd be finished with this until the next Congress," Schwartz said.

The vote is expected to be close, with as many as 45 senators projected to vote for the Durbin amendment. They'll need 50 to persevere. If it passes, the sponsor of the partial-birth abortion ban, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., would "pull" his bill — or remove it from consideration.

"It really is a phony amendment that wipes the whole ban out, and we hope that it will be defeated," Santorum said.

Read here: Focus on the Family

[glory]

I absolutely agree with you and have stated this many times before. The life of the mother is not an issue this far along. You can deliver a live baby as quickly as you can a dead baby to preserve a mother's health.

[k2blader]

Good idea. :-)

Email Senator Frist

[Chad Fairbanks]

I stand by what I said. Trying to attribute my personal opinions to some religious belief, when you know nothing about me or what my beliefs are, is the height of arrogance, with a dash of ignorance thrown in for good measure...

So, Go pick a fight with someone else...

[Lancey Howard]

Can somebody please explain to me the difference between option #1 and option #2 as it relates to the possible endangerment of the mother's life?

"No difference."

Really? I would have thought that the barbaric murder procedure performed on the baby while its little head is still partly in the womb would present more of a danger to the mother than simply removing the living baby the last couple of inches.

By the way, do the "doctors" perform their dirty work while the mother is conscious and aware, or do they make sure the mother is out cold? Anybody know?

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

International News on This

[Matchett-PI]

"So, Go pick a fight with someone else..."

Have no fear I won't ask you again to answer the question I asked, "Where do your inalienable rights come from?" LOL

[CCWoody]

Did you get any responses to this post? I thought it was good.

[Matchett-PI]

"Did you get any responses to this post? I thought it was good."

Just a bump from a Freeper by the name of Rambler.

[agrace]

That's the thing, no one can. But of course you knew that. :)

[nicmarlo]

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---64
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Breaux (D-LA) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Byrd (D-WV) Campbell (R-CO) Carper (D-DE) Chambliss (R-GA) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) Daschle (D-SD) DeWine (R-OH)	Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Fitzgerald (R-IL) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hollings (D-SC) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Johnson (D-SD) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN)	McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Miller (D-GA) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Nickles (R-OK) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---33
Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Collins (R-ME) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT)	Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Graham (D-FL) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Levin (D-MI)	Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Reed (D-RI) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Snowe (R-ME) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 3
Biden (D-DE)	Edwards (D-NC)	Kerry (D-MA)

Vote Summary

By Senator Name

By Vote Position

By Home State

Grouped by Home State

Alabama:	Sessions (R-AL), Yea	Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Alaska:	Murkowski (R-AK), Yea	Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona:	Kyl (R-AZ), Yea	McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas:	Lincoln (D-AR), Yea	Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California:	Boxer (D-CA), Nay	Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Colorado:	Allard (R-CO), Yea	Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Connecticut:	Dodd (D-CT), Nay	Lieberman (D-CT), Nay
Delaware:	Biden (D-DE), Not Voting	Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida:	Graham (D-FL), Nay	Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Georgia:	Chambliss (R-GA), Yea	Miller (D-GA), Yea
Hawaii:	Akaka (D-HI), Nay	Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Idaho:	Craig (R-ID), Yea	Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Illinois:	Durbin (D-IL), Nay	Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Indiana:	Bayh (D-IN), Yea	Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa:	Grassley (R-IA), Yea	Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kansas:	Brownback (R-KS), Yea	Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky:	Bunning (R-KY), Yea	McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Louisiana:	Breaux (D-LA), Yea	Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Maine:	Collins (R-ME), Nay	Snowe (R-ME), Nay
Maryland:	Mikulski (D-MD), Nay	Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Massachusetts:	Kennedy (D-MA), Nay	Kerry (D-MA), Not Voting
Michigan:	Levin (D-MI), Nay	Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota:	Coleman (R-MN), Yea	Dayton (D-MN), Nay
Mississippi:	Cochran (R-MS), Yea	Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri:	Bond (R-MO), Yea	Talent (R-MO), Yea
Montana:	Baucus (D-MT), Nay	Burns (R-MT), Yea
Nebraska:	Hagel (R-NE), Yea	Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada:	Ensign (R-NV), Yea	Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire:	Gregg (R-NH), Yea	Sununu (R-NH), Yea
New Jersey:	Corzine (D-NJ), Nay	Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
New Mexico:	Bingaman (D-NM), Nay	Domenici (R-NM), Yea
New York:	Clinton (D-NY), Nay	Schumer (D-NY), Nay
North Carolina:	Dole (R-NC), Yea	Edwards (D-NC), Not Voting
North Dakota:	Conrad (D-ND), Yea	Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio:	DeWine (R-OH), Yea	Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma:	Inhofe (R-OK), Yea	Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Oregon:	Smith (R-OR), Yea	Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania:	Santorum (R-PA), Yea	Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island:	Chafee (R-RI), Nay	Reed (D-RI), Nay
South Carolina:	Graham (R-SC), Yea	Hollings (D-SC), Yea
South Dakota:	Daschle (D-SD), Yea	Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Tennessee:	Alexander (R-TN), Yea	Frist (R-TN), Yea
Texas:	Cornyn (R-TX), Yea	Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah:	Bennett (R-UT), Yea	Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont:	Jeffords (I-VT), Nay	Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Virginia:	Allen (R-VA), Yea	Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington:	Cantwell (D-WA), Nay	Murray (D-WA), Nay
West Virginia:	Byrd (D-WV), Yea	Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Wisconsin:	Feingold (D-WI), Nay	Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Wyoming:	Enzi (R-WY), Yea	Thomas (R-WY), Yea

Vote Summary

By Senator Name

By Vote Position

By Home State

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[nina0113]

From FoxNews:

House Republicans said they expect to pass the bill by Easter. President Bush has said he would sign the bill if it reaches his desk.

[Cap'n Crunch]

HURRAY!

Let's keep up the prayer, keep up the penance! and rid our country of this evil!

[Matchett-PI]

"Did you get any responses to this post? I thought it was good."

Oops!!! In addition to the bump the post got from rambler, I also had this inane question (#91), to which I didn't bother responding (since it should have been addressed to the writer I was quoting, Koukl):

M-PI quoting Gregory Koukl: "The fact is, when a thing is something it never becomes something else."

eastsider: "Can I assume you leave room for miracles, such as the dirt that became the first man?"
91 posted on 03/13/2003 11:17 AM EST by eastsider To #30

[Chad Fairbanks]

So, what you are saying is, essentially, that if you were not a christian, you'd support killing babies? Do I have that right?

(And, my rights were secured by the bravery of men and women who fought for those rights...)

So, basically what it boils down to is that we both disagree with abortion, but because I dont' wrap it in Biblical Phraseology, you think you are better... well, let's see what God has to say about that, k?

[hellinahandcart]

Hmmm...Biden, Edwards, and Kerry not voting...