Can Iraq Hit America?

Newsweek ^ | March 17, 2003 | Daniel Klaidman and Christopher Dickey

[Storm Eagle]

"...as Washington threatens to bring Saddam’s own reign to an end, U.S. officials are afraid he might use such gruesome tactics against Americans. Outgunned on the traditional battlefield, Saddam is looking to fight back on his own terms. That, according to American officials, could mean any number of terror plots, from isolated assassinations of U.S. citizens overseas to biological or chemical attacks in the American heartland."

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting the specifics about the Iraqi/Islamofacist training center, Salman Pak.

"Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility at Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.

Salman Pak, located 30-40 km SE of Baghdad, engaged in laboratory scale research on Anthrax, Botulinum toxin, Clostridium, perfringens (gas gangrene), mycotoxins, aflatoxins, and Ricin. Researchers at this site carried out toxicity evaluations of these agents and examined their growth characteristics and survivability.

Iraq told UN inspectors that Salman Pak was an anti-terror training camp for Iraqi special forces. However, two defectors from Iraqi intelligence stated that they had worked for several years at the secret Iraqi government camp, which had trained Islamic terrorists in rotations of five or six months since 1995. Training activities including simulated hijackings carried out in an airplane fuselage [said to be a Boeing 707] at the camp. The camp is divided into distinct sections. On one side of the camp young, Iraqis who were members of Fedayeen Saddam are trained in espionage, assassination techniques and sabotage. The Islamic militants trained on the other side of the camp, in an area separated by a small lake, trees and barbed wire. The militants reportedly spent time training, usually in groups of five or six, around the fuselage of the airplane. There were rarely more than 40 or 50 Islamic radicals in the camp at one time. "

From: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/salman_pak.htm

[billbears]

Ahhh, someone spoiling for a fight without the time to address their beefs to the proper threads

I'm sorry, perhaps you could point me to a thread where those who sometimes think for themselves are relegated. I didn't realize that specific wars had threads (other than the War of Northern Aggression threads). The fact is that these two issues are tied together. On one hand you have a nation with missiles that fire 110 miles, the other currently has nuclear weapons and is developing long range deployment for those weapons. You tell me which issue under the opinion of the Founders would be more important then. I always thought protecting against attacks on our borders was utmost. Silly me.

Can Iraq Hit America? If we get out of every treaty, regardless of whether they affect the Iraq situation or not, will "potential" Iraqi terrorists leave us alone then?

The question was asked 'Can Iraq Hit America'. Since I assume you're talking about these United States instead of anywhere on either American continent, I would argue they could hit within the borders of these United States. But I would also argue that there are terrorists located and receiving funds from mid east 'allies'. What? When this nation of states finishes with Iraq, are we going after the known terrorists in Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Jordan? Iran? Because they're in those nations as well and they are (if intelligence reports are to be believed) receiving comfort and aid from the governments of some of those nations as well. And if history repeats itself, once you cut off one head, ten more are created. I agree, best involve ourselves in a war that could go on and on with no end in sight, rather than take care of a nation that represents a clear and present danger currently

That's not to say I don't think Hussein needs to go. Without a doubt he does. But take care of issues that are closer to a Constitutional definition of war (North Korea) instead of first involving ourselves in another war on something. We'll have thousands upon thousands of troops stationed throughout the Middle East for decades. Yep, that follows the Constitution too < /sarcasm>(more of those foreign entanglements) If history also repeats itself from our national government's perspective, it will be a war without an end, one we'll be expected to support with our tax dollars for time immemorial

[Illbay]

That it is all just a put-on to deflect attention from the real perps?

[Illbay]

Newsweek and Time typically issue their editions seven to ten days in advance of the date on the cover.

Think of it as an "expires by" date.

[Illbay]

Yeah, right. A local radio talk show host gathers all this intelligence data and the authorities have NO CLUE.

You are the typical sort of credulous person that these people make their money from.

[Mo1]

Yeah, right. A local radio talk show host gathers all this intelligence data and the authorities have NO CLUE.

That wasn't what I said ..but if you want to twist my words .. have a blast

[Maeve]

I have heard nothing about this. This is very frightening. Was she speaking about a particular city (like Philly???) or where these fake auto shops opening up all across the country?

[MizSterious]

FYI

[Mo1]

I have heard nothing about this. This is very frightening

Well I don't know how true this is, I am only repeating what she said.

She mentioned that they are in OK and other Cities

[Victor]

"....Can Iraq hit America?

September 11, 2001, 8:46 AM...."

How about April 19th, 1995???

[aristeides]

Summer '96 was the time of TWA 800 and the Olympic Park bombings in Atlanta, was it not?

[Hadean]

This de-classified 1988 CIA document mentions Hussein’s use of terrorism, not excluding foreign attempts, to his tactical advantage to promote his goals. As for any US-targeted Iraqi motive of using terrorism, that can be traced back to UN resolution 687 passed in early 91, which makes explicit mention deploring Hussein’s threat to use terrorism outside of Iraq.

This Document released the day before 9-11 details The Peoples Mojahedin Organization of Iran, which resides in a base within Iraq with several thousand members in it’s military wing. This group, I believe, also has members within US borders and has been a large focus on the minds of US national security and anti-terrorism efforts.

[backhoe]

have opened auto body shops but never do any business, she said that what really caught her attention was that she spoke to a witness that said they saw these Iraqis always wearing latex gloves at some of these shops

Body shops purchase in bulk and use some rather nasty chemicals- acetone comes to mind. I did mechanic's work 30 years ago and am out of touch, but you used to get the stuff in carbouys- by the multiple gallon. I think acetone is used in producing crystal meth, and in the process of making certain contact explosives.

On another note, for terrorism, recall how 2 guys in an old car disrupted the beltway? Now imagine a few hundred teams like that in major & minor cities, and what it would do economically...

[Amerigomag]

How can that be?

This article will be included in the March 17 edition of the printed magazine which may be in news stands right now.

[Mo1]

Body shops purchase in bulk and use some rather nasty chemicals- acetone comes to mind.

True .. but if you don't do any business, there would also be no need for them

there were other things that she mentioned, her name is pretty well know, maybe some one else around here is more informed about this then I am, that can discuss this better

[Pan_Yans Wife]

And Babylon is Iraq. Always intriguing to try to read the future, using Revelations.

[Calpernia]

bump for later

[MizSterious]

Mol, Jayna Davis and others including David Schippers have known about this and yes, reported it--to no avail. They're treated like crackpots, or were at the time. OKCSubmariner had posted quite a bit on this topic, but I think most of his posts have been removed. At the time, FR management thought HE was a crackpot, I suspect, but as time goes on, the truth of what he wrote is finally being shown.

I don't usually like to recommend Liberty Post to people, but it IS one place where many of his articles are still there to read. Honway might know of some others. I've pinged him.

[backhoe]

True .. but if you don't do any business, there would also be no need for them

But it would make a lovely front and cover for ordering & stocking them... BTW, a lack of business traffic fairly screams "front for illegal activity"- a legit shop dies without customers, and this also implies support money ( for rent, debt service, payroll, utilities ) coming from an outside source.

[Bulldogs22]

"And Babylon is Iraq. Always intriguing to try to read the future, using Revelations."



Chapter 9, verse 13. Could it be any clearer?